Law Enforcement and Steroids
05-27-2007 06:45 PM
Law Enforcement and Steroids
i was contemplating getting a job as a corrections officer out here in socal and was wondering if anyone knew their stance on steroid use?
in all obviousness they wont allow you to use illegal steroids BUT the wonderfull "supplements" we all have now are sometimes precursors or prohormones to other definately illegal steroids (M1,4ADD/AD and Dbol/boldenone) and wondered if they tested fo steroid use in applying for a position. Ive allready answered a preliminary back ground test to see if i am applicable and on there was a question about past drug use, steroids were included, and im sure in the oral reveiw there will be questioning regarding steroid use. What we take now is not scheduled and ignorance can be feigned as to what are considered supplements now.... but what about testing? do they test blood and/or urine for such use?
if so its not an issue as i can discontinue use when it comes time (not in the near future) and run a pct and then allow enough clearance time in order to get the position just wondering if its even necessary to do so?
05-27-2007 07:18 PM
im trying to be a fireman with LAFD and one of the questions believe it or not is have you taken any "designer drugs" so i dont know but ust remember passing the oral is 100% of the job
05-27-2007 07:41 PM
They're not going to pay for the testing required for steroid testing. I don't think anybody other than professional sports organizations do this. GC/MS is a bit too expensive to be doing frequently with thousands and thousands of people. Probably cost most large cities millions every year just to test their cops off roids.
05-27-2007 07:42 PM
U should be ok. When I took the lie dectecter test I failed the part when he asked do I take drugs. I said no and afterwards I explained to him that I wanted to use steroids and have used PH's. Everything was cool. As for piss tests they give u one and as far as I know they are only looking for stuff like weed, crack and so on. But if u blew 20lbs in a small timeframe they will prob probe and investigate.
But in short u should be perfectly fine esp if u passed the background part.
05-27-2007 07:52 PM
poopys oral skills are 100%
Originally Posted by BMW
05-27-2007 09:01 PM
I think quite a few of use can attest to that...
Originally Posted by B5150
But I know quite a few correctional officers who juice regularly...You'll be fine.
05-27-2007 09:05 PM
I would imagine that different localities and Departments have different policies and testing criteria. Ronnie Coleman is a reserve police officer. I dont know if they go through the same testing,but I would guess they would.
05-27-2007 09:17 PM
so that was the extent of the questioning regarding drugs in general? "Have you used drugs" with a lie dectecor and then an explination of your results afterwords?
Originally Posted by UNCfan1
mainly cause i have had past experience with marijuana as well (i think bout 75% the population has) and am willing to admit it if asked directly but if i can pass by stating my missed answer with a like response only regarding questionably legal designer steroids it would be preferable..... as im not the kind of person to do such any more and am more worried about my families well being and personal physical progress.
thanks for all the input guys... n ya PI i know of fellas as well that are now C.O.'s and use but didnt kwo what they had to do for the initail application....btw both you guys said my "oral" specialties would be kept between us...
05-27-2007 09:21 PM
I was always taught if you are good at something, you should share it with others.
05-27-2007 09:25 PM
well youve gone and done it for yourself... ive received such an overwhelming response from veiwers ive decided to now charge... looks like youve just "shared" yourself outta freebies
05-27-2007 10:00 PM
Most correction officer positions do not require a poly and will not just randomly test for AS. Poly jobs get you in a round about way depending on what you took but you're afforded a chance to explain yourself prior to strapping in. you have a questionaire that lets you explain things. Some depts. allow different drugs to be tried a certain number of times.
05-27-2007 10:03 PM
Polygraph tests are crap anyway. If lie detector tests were accurate, a huge portion of criminal cases would immediately be thrown out/ended/etc. I think they use them simply as a way to scare out the idiots.
05-27-2007 10:07 PM
Not really Kwyk. They use them to see how honest and open the officers will be so they can somewhat believe later on they will do the same when under the same types of stress. They do serve a purpose...Don't take one if you plan on lying though. If you fail a poly you are usually disqualified for life from that dept. Even depts that don't require polys will require one if you failed another.
05-27-2007 10:11 PM
i think you have to go through the same process and academy to get into a CO position here as the LAPD, plus id like to have the option of doing that as well... havnt decided yet... i still have a lil homework to do first on C.O. exactly first. but again thanks all for the input, its greatly appreciated.
05-27-2007 10:14 PM
I'd agree its a good way to tell whether or not a person is going to be open and honest, or "has nothing to hide". That's pretty much what I meant when I said they're there to scare the idiots out.
Originally Posted by Gayhawkk
But, my argument was that they don't really work. Some people just get nervous. And when a machine graphs blood pressure, respiration, perspiration, and pulse it works horribly as a means of proving anything.
Give a nervous wreck a poly on something he was not guilty of and he could fail easily, and give a sociopath a poly on something he is guilty of and he may pass with flying colors. That's why they're rarely used for trials.
Polygraphs may have a purpose, but I still think they're stupid.
I <3 U
05-27-2007 10:15 PM
Now that I think about it, the only (almost) flawless use of polygraph testing would probably be for testing whether or not the ladies are lying when they say it was good. j/k i know ladies get worked up when they fake it too :'(
05-27-2007 10:49 PM
I don't remember the exact questions he changed the words around and asked the question 4 different times. Now one of the cops I work with use to do drugs really bad. I remember riding with him before the academy and he told me about all of the crap he has done.
Originally Posted by poopypants
Be honest as best as u can. It was easy for me since he didn't ask anything specific.
It was kinda scary he came back in afterwards and asked again if I did or have done drugs and I was like no but I do want to use steroids and have used PH's and he said let me go talk to the Lt and Cheif. A few mintues later he said it was ok but I could tell he thought I was lying he was such an *******.
05-27-2007 11:00 PM
BTW the academy will be really fun. Big muscles don't mean squat to these guys. I guess its para-military in every state and love to pick on people. We had this one cat who didn't pass the PT tests and OMG the stuff they did and said to him had my dying inside but I couldn't show it. Meal time was the worst. The food sucked and they give u 15min to eat. 4 am runs wow that was harsh. The Troopers get it the worst not sure how bad CO's get it they didn't have a class when I went.
05-27-2007 11:34 PM
ya im def not lookin forward to too much of it... i dont like runing and havnt done it religiously since i had to for wrestling but there i did it ALOT, i also still (snow)board regularly but thats a seasonal thing and im sure my endurance is already shot by this time of year, i hate cardio and am scared what its going to do to my muscles specially if these schmucks are not letting me eat properly... oh well its worth it for a little bit.
lol i know its riskay but you suppose i could bring in a "multi vitamin" (read some epi or something in a vitamin bottle) in order to help preserve muscle mass while in the academy or is it not even a possibility.
05-27-2007 11:40 PM
I shrunk alot while up there. I took protein bars up there. At the academy that I went to they had certain spots they didn't check it was the little kitchen area between rooms. Def sneak in good stuff. Cause 3 crappy meals won't cut it.
Originally Posted by poopypants
I am sure u can do pullups if not u will be last to eat lol. Dude the academy in Selma, Alabama was so hard. State Troopers ran this joint and they were all ex-military on an on air force base. I still don't understand why the troopers got it so hard they don't do nearly as much **** as we do.
PT test was nothing. Just the pointless am running was worthless. I chased a few cats down when I first started but they gets old fast lol.
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