- 05-18-2007, 02:46 AM
1-4 weeks : Havoc 30mgs
1-4 weeks : Test Prop 100mgs EOD
1-4 weeks : tormafeine
1-4 weeks : Retain 2
1-4 weeks : tribulous (product) "hypertest"
1-4 weeks : ZMA
1-4 weeks : Milk Thistle
my real question here is regarding the gyno reduction properties of Havoc, will stacking this with Test Prop, deminish the anti gyno properties? thoughts?
- 05-18-2007, 03:59 AM
05-18-2007, 04:03 AM
05-18-2007, 10:30 AM
i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...
05-18-2007, 04:20 PM
05-18-2007, 04:51 PM
05-18-2007, 06:02 PM
You can run a SERM at low doses or an AI at moderate doses.
There is nothing wrong with short cycles. I think is was size, but don't quote me on that, that had a thread about how much he liked short cycles.
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