test prop/havoc

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    test prop/havoc


    1-4 weeks : Havoc 30mgs
    1-4 weeks : Test Prop 100mgs EOD


    PCT:
    1-4 weeks : tormafeine
    1-4 weeks : Retain 2
    1-4 weeks : tribulous (product) "hypertest"
    1-4 weeks : ZMA
    1-4 weeks : Milk Thistle


    my real question here is regarding the gyno reduction properties of Havoc, will stacking this with Test Prop, deminish the anti gyno properties? thoughts?


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    why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

    And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couldigga View Post
    why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

    And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...
    mainly because I only want to do a 4 weeker. also, I want minimal shutdown/sides...

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    i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvb20 View Post
    i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...
    max, I'll run 6


    but what do you guys think I should do to help reduce gyno?

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    always have nolvadex on hand

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    You can run a SERM at low doses or an AI at moderate doses.


    There is nothing wrong with short cycles. I think is was size, but don't quote me on that, that had a thread about how much he liked short cycles.

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