test prop/havoc

  1. test prop/havoc


    1-4 weeks : Havoc 30mgs
    1-4 weeks : Test Prop 100mgs EOD


    PCT:
    1-4 weeks : tormafeine
    1-4 weeks : Retain 2
    1-4 weeks : tribulous (product) "hypertest"
    1-4 weeks : ZMA
    1-4 weeks : Milk Thistle


    my real question here is regarding the gyno reduction properties of Havoc, will stacking this with Test Prop, deminish the anti gyno properties? thoughts?


  2. why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

    And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Couldigga View Post
    why are you only running test for 4 weeks?

    And yeah you should have less estrogenic effects...
    mainly because I only want to do a 4 weeker. also, I want minimal shutdown/sides...
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  4. i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jvb20 View Post
    i would run at least 8 weeks of prop... u will just start liking the gains u getting from prop at like 3 weeks...
    max, I'll run 6


    but what do you guys think I should do to help reduce gyno?

  6. always have nolvadex on hand

  7. You can run a SERM at low doses or an AI at moderate doses.


    There is nothing wrong with short cycles. I think is was size, but don't quote me on that, that had a thread about how much he liked short cycles.
  

  
 

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