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hill5673

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This will be my second PH/PS cycle. My first was 5 weeks of Havoc with a low dose of Methoxy TST.

Here's what I have (not including support and post cycle therapy supps):
3 bottles Havoc
3 bottles TST
1 bottle M-Drol (superdrol)
1 bottle Pherabol (PheraPlex)
2 bottles 1,4 AD BOLD


A lot of people seem to say that they get their biggest gains from superdrol in the first 2-3 weeks. It also seems that negative sides start to show up aroud week 2.
Because of this I was thinking about doing the following:

Week 1 20mg M-drol + 6mg TST (Maybe replace TST w/ BOLD)
Week 2 20mg M-drol + 8mg TST
Week 3 20mg Havoc + 10mg TST
Week 4 30mg Havoc + 10mg TST
Week 5 40mg Havoc + 10mg TST
Week 6 40mg Havoc + 10mg TST

Week 7 120mg(3 days)90mg(4 days) Torm + 2 Restore
Week 8 90mg Torm + 2 restore
Week 9 60mg Torm + 3 Restore
Week 10 60mg Torm + 3 Restore
Week 11 3 Restore

Of course I will be running AI's Life support throughout cycle along with EFA's and other essentials.

I know 6 weeks on methyls seems like alot but Havoc seems to be rather mild on suppression and the liver.

If you like this stack let me know. If you see a better stack in there let me know ;)

Maybe Phera + Havoc?
 
phera/havoc/tst/1,4,bold stack

running the two bottles of bold at a steady dose for days 10-40
tst and phera for the first 25days
havoc run days 20-50

???? a rough sketch so to speak. but yes, cycle history and stats would help. i gotta go.
 
pistonpump said:
phera/havoc/tst/1,4,bold stack

running the two bottles of bold at a steady dose for days 10-40
tst and phera for the first 25days
havoc run days 20-50

???? a rough sketch so to speak. but yes, cycle history and stats would help. i gotta go.
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I agree except

Bold - Days 10-40
SD/PP/TST - Days 1-21
Havoc/TST - Days 22-End
 
pistonpump said:
phera/havoc/tst/1,4,bold stack

running the two bottles of bold at a steady dose for days 10-40
tst and phera for the first 25days
havoc run days 20-50

???? a rough sketch so to speak. but yes, cycle history and stats would help. i gotta go.
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This sounds pretty good. I was thinking Phera/Havoc would work well together since Phera is wet.
 
pistonpump said:
how did the tst and havoc go for you?

could you share you likes dislikes for each during your last cycle?
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I didn't really see much from the TST because I only ran it at 4-6 mg.
As for the Havoc, my strength increased pretty well and I gained (after PCT) a modest 8lbs.
My pethetic flat bench went from 205x5 to 225x5. Not too bad.
Also I had an arm injury for 20% of my cycle which really bummed me out. Could have gained much more. This time around I'm looking for more MASS though ;)
 
8mg or so of TST for the duration with BOLD at 600-800mg for the duration. phera for 3 weeks 20-30mg. 4th week of phera bridged with Havoc 30mg for the last 4 weeks.

Something like that. I didnt do the caluculations on how long your bottles will last at those doses but i believe those doses should be good. No need for superdrol IMO save it for later you could use it with the M14add in a bulk.

1- 8mg tst/600mg bold/20mg phera
2- 8mg tst/600mg bold/20mg phera
3- 8mg tst/600mg bold/30mg phera
4- 8mg tst/600mg bold/30mg phera/20mg havoc
5- 8mg tst/800mg bold/30mg havoc
6- 8mg tst/800mg bold/30mg havoc
7- 800mg bold/40mg havoc

now you have to change doses according to sides and gains as usual but im sure this would be quite nice. Just keep a good eye out for nasty things. Could be bad on liver but i think all compounds involved are fairly mild on there own. Superdrol would really fvck you up if it was in this cycle. Let us know what you decide im curious. you might want to research the BOLD doses but im pretty sure you lose some of the target hormone during conversion and 500mg of boldenone (EQ) is about where you want to be so you would need more that the target amount with the prohormone version. Maybe someone else will help or you could do some research but id venture to say 800mg of BOLD would convert to 500-600 mg boldenone the target hormone. HOpe i helped
 
pistonpump said:
8mg or so of TST for the duration with BOLD at 600-800mg for the duration. phera for 3 weeks 20-30mg. 4th week of phera bridged with Havoc 30mg for the last 4 weeks.

Something like that. I didnt do the caluculations on how long your bottles will last at those doses but i believe those doses should be good. No need for superdrol IMO save it for later you could use it with the M14add in a bulk.

1- 8mg tst/600mg bold/20mg phera
2- 8mg tst/600mg bold/20mg phera
3- 8mg tst/600mg bold/30mg phera
4- 8mg tst/600mg bold/30mg phera/20mg havoc
5- 8mg tst/800mg bold/30mg havoc
6- 8mg tst/800mg bold/30mg havoc
7- 800mg bold/40mg havoc

now you have to change doses according to sides and gains as usual but im sure this would be quite nice. Just keep a good eye out for nasty things. Could be bad on liver but i think all compounds involved are fairly mild on there own. Superdrol would really fvck you up if it was in this cycle. Let us know what you decide im curious. you might want to research the BOLD doses but im pretty sure you lose some of the target hormone during conversion and 500mg of boldenone (EQ) is about where you want to be so you would need more that the target amount with the prohormone version. Maybe someone else will help or you could do some research but id venture to say 800mg of BOLD would convert to 500-600 mg boldenone the target hormone. HOpe i helped
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That deffinately sounds like a good stack but I would have to get 3 more bottles of Bold to run it that high for that long.
Do you think I would notice that much more than running just TST/Phera/Havoc? Is boldelone usually ran that long?
 
hill5673 said:
That deffinately sounds like a good stack but I would have to get 3 more bottles of Bold to run it that high for that long.
Do you think I would notice that much more than running just TST/Phera/Havoc? Is boldelone usually ran that long?
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you could just leave the bold out if you want to. Im sure its not methylated so you can run it for long periods imo but hey, i havent used the ph form before just the injectable boldenone so dont take my word on it. Look on other boards im sure there are plenty of logs out there you could read.

if you like you could do phera/tst/havoc cycle and a mdrol/m14add/bold cycle up to you really but i would keep phera and havoc together.
 
Ok here's what I decided to do:

1- 600mg bold/20mg phera
2- 600mg bold/20or30mg phera
3- 600mg bold/30mg phera
4- 600mg bold/20mg phera/20mg havoc
5- 600mg bold/30mg havoc
6- 600mg bold/30mg havoc
7- 600mg bold/40mg havoc

I'll save the TST for a future stack or maybe a solo run.

I have a question about life support. Some people say not to take it with your PH/PS's. How should I time it then?
I was thinking :
5:00am 2 bold 1 Phera
Noonish 2 bold 1 Phera
7:00pm 2 bold

Does that seem ok? What times would I take the life support?
 
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