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Liver Support POLL: If you had the choice to chose one of the following products!

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  1. Liver Support POLL: If you had the choice to chose one of the following products!


    Ive searched and havent seen a poll for these products.. It seems there is a lot of people using liver longer but, ive read it is really under dosed?

    So, im going to list as many liver "support supplements" i know of in the poll so we can see which gets the highest votes!

    Please vote for the "most effective", cost does not matter.

    Also, if u use more then one, list/explain

    edit: btw, i have chosen AI Cycle support. Im currently taking 2 scoops/day (1 serving) for 1-2 weeks (depending on my injury) prior to my first cycle.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by 300Fan View Post
    btw, i have chosen AI Cycle support. Im currently taking 2 scoops/day (1 serving) for 1-2 weeks (depending on my injury) prior to my first cycle.

    Good choice!

  3. if i had to choose a product it would be SAMe and nothing but.
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  4. If all you were concerned about was liver support then I suggest Cycle Support would be a poor choice since it contains RYR which is potentially hepatotoxic. However I think most would agree that its cholesterol lowering properties outweigh any potential liver toxicity concerns.

  5. I am going to run cycle support, even though I too have heard of the problems that my arise with RYR. SAMe seems to be really good too.

    I would go with cycle support.

  6. Great idea for a poll!

    Listing both Cycle Support and Life Support is redundant IMO. Maybe they could have been grouped together as one choice. Againk, great idea either way though.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Sonicology View Post
    If all you were concerned about was liver support then I suggest Cycle Support would be a poor choice since it contains RYR which is potentially hepatotoxic.
    anymore info about this?

  8. Well well well... no surpirses here! Look who is WAY out in front!!!

  9. Cycle Support...

    Workin

  10. Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    I am going to run cycle support, even though I too have heard of the problems that my arise with RYR. SAMe seems to be really good too.

    I would go with cycle support.
    I heard the fda is taking ryr off the shelves.....there must be some truth to that statement!!!
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  11. without giving any company props......It's a known fact(even tho my doctor told me NOTHING!!!!!!! will help your liver,taking nothing is better..less stress on the liver is the key) the liver is able to repair itself...one one the few organs that can actually regenerate itself,(if you give it the time too!!!!)...i personally take this matter very serious,and would have to recomend the following(nothing listed above)...R-isomer alpha lipoic acid(designer supplements does make a great one) this is one of the most potent anti-oxidants to date..NAC,proven to prevent toxicity of the liver,due to overdose of things like toxic mushrooms,tylonol od(things like lortabs,)hospitals use this to detox patients..(my brother works in a trama unit er),milk thistle is a powerful antioxidant,and is proven by many studies to help the liver...just food for thought...hope this helps someone....
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  12. GREAT info Trip, good thing Cycle Support has milk thistle in it


    CROWLER
    Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
    HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
    Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
    Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    I heard the fda is taking ryr off the shelves.....there must be some truth to that statement!!!
    It has nothing to do with the liver issue. They are going after RYR because it contains lovastatin, which is also an FDA approved drug for lowering cholesterol (under the name Mevacor). The lovastatin in RYR is natural, whereas the lovastatin in Mevacor is synthetic, but it's still exactly the same chemical. That's why RYR works so well. Although RYR clearly meets eligibility as a dietary supplement under DSHEA, the FDA is claiming that as an FDA-approved drug, lovastatin cannot be found in dietary supplements.

    I don't know about the FDA banning RYR completely, but they have really cracked down on suppliers of standardized RYR extracts that contain a stated minimum amount of lovastatin or "monacolins", the statin-like group of chemicals that includes lovastatin.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by TeamSavage View Post
    It has nothing to do with the liver issue. They are going after RYR because it contains lovastatin, which is also an FDA approved drug for lowering cholesterol (under the name Mevacor). The lovastatin in RYR is natural, whereas the lovastatin in Mevacor is synthetic, but it's still exactly the same chemical. That's why RYR works so well. Although RYR clearly meets eligibility as a dietary supplement under DSHEA, the FDA is claiming that as an FDA-approved drug, lovastatin cannot be found in dietary supplements.

    I don't know about the FDA banning RYR completely, but they have really cracked down on suppliers of standardized RYR extracts that contain a stated minimum amount of lovastatin or "monacolins", the statin-like group of chemicals that includes lovastatin.
    thanks for clearing that up...good post
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  15. thanks for clearing that up...good post

    I'll 2nd that. This is a great thread btw. Anyone have blood work done after using Liver Longer? Just curious. Milk Thistle and NAC have always helped me. Cycle Support is what I'll be using next cycle. Great product and price.

  16. ANOTHER bump for cycle support. I have taken this product extensively... it tastes delicious, and the BEST part, is what it does in your body after it pleases your taste buds! AWESOME work as always Crowler!

  17. Here are blood test results from people using Cycle Support

    High Cholesterol Reading-help needed

    Cycle Support Review

    Cycle Support = Life Support ???


    CROWLER
    Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
    HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
    Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
    Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade

  18. n acetyl-cysteine acts to augment glutathione reserves (depleted by toxic paracetamol metabolites) in the body and, together with glutathione to directly bind to toxic metabolites!!! These actions serve to protect hepatocytes in the liver from toxicity due to paracetamol overdose................Milk thistles are believed to have protective effects on the liver and to improve its function. They are typically used to treat liver cirrhosis, chronic hepatitis (liver inflammation), and gallbladder disorders.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  19. That is MORE good news.

    Cycle Support also has n acetyl-cysteine


    CROWLER
    Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
    HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
    Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
    Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade

  20. hands down cycle support

  21. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    That is MORE good news.

    Cycle Support also has n acetyl-cysteine


    CROWLER
    Oh yes my friend! The entire collection and complimentary assortment of compounds in CS is TRULY a unique and powerful thing of beauty!!!

    The votes in this thread, and the COUNTLESS other satisfied and healthy athletes across the country are testiment of that!

  22. Cycle Support with additional SAMe is a great combo

  23. Alpha-lipoic acid is also known for being an extremely powerful antioxidant with special molecular capabilities. The structure of the alpha-lipoic acid molecule differs from all other antioxidants, allowing it to penetrate and protect tissues that otherwise cannot benefit from antioxidants, such as the brain, liver and nerves......

    Alpha-lipoic acid also does one other thing that no other antioxidant has done it actually has the ability to recycle other antioxidants over and over again...
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  24. i do have to give thumbs way up to cycle support....it really is a great product!!
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  25. Have used Cycle Support for a long time with great success. Also will be including it in my upcoming cycle, with blood work done post cycle to put it to the real test.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AlphaAnabolic View Post
    ANOTHER bump for cycle support. I have taken this product extensively... it tastes delicious, and the BEST part, is what it does in your body after it pleases your taste buds! AWESOME work as always Crowler!
    Okay, I don't know if I just got a bad batch or something, but "it tastes delicious?" I'm going to have to call bull**** on that statement. Mine tasted rancid. The only reason I kept choking it down was because it was the most convenient way to get in all my support supps.

    Also on a side note, no "scoop" was included in my tub of cycle support.

  27. Cycle support would be my pick if it didn't have the blood pressure lowering agents in it.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Skye View Post
    Cycle support would be my pick if it didn't have the blood pressure lowering agents in it.
    Umm...what?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    Umm...what?
    some of use are sensitive to the celery seed extract and whatnot. That is why I don't use it. otherwise...


    deadikated, it taste good considering whats in it. one of the things you can do is is let your shake (you should always take it in a protien shake if possible, with milk) sit for about ten in the fridge. this helps for some reason.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    without giving any company props......It's a known fact(even tho my doctor told me NOTHING!!!!!!! will help your liver,taking nothing is better..less stress on the liver is the key) the liver is able to repair itself...one one the few organs that can actually regenerate itself,(if you give it the time too!!!!)...i personally take this matter very serious,and would have to recomend the following(nothing listed above)...R-isomer alpha lipoic acid(designer supplements does make a great one) this is one of the most potent anti-oxidants to date..NAC,proven to prevent toxicity of the liver,due to overdose of things like toxic mushrooms,tylonol od(things like lortabs,)hospitals use this to detox patients..(my brother works in a trama unit er),milk thistle is a powerful antioxidant,and is proven by many studies to help the liver...just food for thought...hope this helps someone....
    good post AX's Perfect cycle has all of those.
    cycle support is okay i dont like that i have to take it with a shake all the time. I personally prefer pills i guess. taste is not good haha.

    Anyone try synthergine or whatever its called? its a liver protector you can inject. Ill post a link if anyone wants it. just gotta go for a bit....Im probably going to try NOW's liver detox next and use it pre and post cycle as opposed to oncycle. Im doing my own research on what works best for me...

  31. Gin + Tonic all night long

  32. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    cycle support is okay i dont like that i have to take it with a shake all the time. I personally prefer pills i guess. taste is not good haha.
    Whaaa...Crowler didnt tell you that he specifically made Life Support just for you for this specific reason? He must be slipping.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by zbtboy View Post
    Whaaa...Crowler didnt tell you that he specifically made Life Support just for you for this specific reason? He must be slipping.
    eh, its never in stock

  34. in terms of strength...
    NAC < Milk Thistle < SAMe

    look at the ingredients in the product in question. I wont even use most "liver cleaner" or detox type products as most are under dosed or simply not as effective as taking SAMe standalone.

  35. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    eh, its never in stock
    Hey PistonPump,

    What is never in stock and where is it never instock?


    CROWLER
    Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
    HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
    Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
    Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade

  36. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Hey PistonPump,

    What is never in stock and where is it never instock?


    CROWLER
    life support @ NP. I dont really shop anywhere else...

  37. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    life support @ NP. I dont really shop anywhere else...
    Its in stock at NP now.

  38. AI cycle support for sure.. I cap it in "000" size caps so there is about 1200mg per....

    I dont think that the small dose of idebenone is enough though, so i add coq10..

    Throw in low dosed sam-e and your good to go

  39. Well, I think people don't use SAMe because it's some what expensive, but not bad. People prefer kitchen sink products that are cheap. I personally take SAMe + Liv 52. I've never taken an androgen in my life, but I'm planning on too.

    Liv 52 is tried and true, and SAMe is the real deal. If I really cared, I would do:

    2 capsules Liv 52
    200mg SAMe
    100mg R-ALA
    500mg-1g NAC (higher dose if ON)
    250-500mg Milk Thistle

    I suppose I would look into AX's Perfect Cycle, but I like to modify my dosages of products. If I pay a little bit more, so be it. I find going the cheap route with supplements always costs you more.

  40. LOL and the winner is ....take a wild guess :P

    Much Love

    Neoborn
  

  
 

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