first cycle result 2nd cycle planning

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ok well just finished my first cycle.. i ran test prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks.. i have gained 18 pounds and lost bf not sure how much though just look alot more cut...

second cycle wanting to run this summer let me know what u think i will be trying to gain as much as i can off this cycle...
test cyp weeks 1-14 500mg
eq weeks 1-2 600mg 2-12 400mg
dbol weeks 1-5 25mg a day
maybe test prop 150eod weeks 1-4 not sure what u think?


let me know what u like about this cycle what u dont or what u would change.. open for suggestions...
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ok well just finished my first cycle.. i ran test prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks.. i have gained 18 pounds and lost bf not sure how much though just look alot more cut...

second cycle wanting to run this summer let me know what u think i will be trying to gain as much as i can off this cycle...
test cyp weeks 1-14 500mg
eq weeks 1-2 600mg 2-12 400mg
dbol weeks 1-5 25mg a day
maybe test prop 150eod weeks 1-4 not sure what u think?


let me know what u like about this cycle what u dont or what u would change.. open for suggestions...
thanks

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195
8-9 %bf
age 23

take at least 12 weeks off after your pct

run eq 14 weeks minimum (i wouldnt bother with frontload)

run test 1 week longer than the eq (15 in this case)

choose either prop or dbol to kickstart..i wouldnt use both
 

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witch one do you think would be for better gains prop or dbol??? i am going to take off 8 weeks the same length as i was on.. i will be going out of town for a couple of weeks later in the year so i wanted to get this cycle in before i go....

does this look like a good bulking cycle or would u suggest something else????
 
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dbol start deca and test e with a prop ending would probably be a better choice for straight up bulk.
 

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ok should i run the deca for the same length as i was going to run the eq? 14 weeks.. and the cycle i had planned out do you think it would be more of a lean gaining cycle then bulking???


dbol start deca and test e with a prop ending would probably be a better choice for straight up bulk.
 
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ok should i run the deca for the same length as i was going to run the eq? 14 weeks.. and the cycle i had planned out do you think it would be more of a lean gaining cycle then bulking???
yeah my research says run the same length as you would eq but HCG is strongly recommended. EQ isnt really a bulker unless youre eating alot of cals which people say it increases appetite but i didnt notice much of that at 600mg EW. So yeah i think that eq would be a leaner cycle and you would look better on it because of the vascularity it gives. EQ is mild and i think Deca is a little more complicated. Are you looking to really bulk bulk?
 

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dbol start deca and test e with a prop ending would probably be a better choice for straight up bulk.
this is perfect.

dont run deca and eq together..unless i'm reading your other post wrong..this is only a 2nd cycle so dbol/test would be fine
 

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well id like to bulk up quit a bit around another 20lbs or so.. give or take a bit... i know deca holds alot of water witch i may not want...u think it would be possible to add around that much with the eq instead of deca??? i think i would like the vascular look.. (note my diet will be right on target for a bulk)

yeah my research says run the same length as you would eq but HCG is strongly recommended. EQ isnt really a bulker unless youre eating alot of cals which people say it increases appetite but i didnt notice much of that at 600mg EW. So yeah i think that eq would be a leaner cycle and you would look better on it because of the vascularity it gives. EQ is mild and i think Deca is a little more complicated. Are you looking to really bulk bulk?
 
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Im not sure you would get 20lbs with 500mg test and 400mg eq seeing how this is your second cycle....but then again the dbol might help. I like to under shoot my weight gain goals now just so i dont get dissappointed lol. You never know the appetite might be effected with you using the EQ but it didnt do much for mine. I loved the vascularity tho! kinda takes to long to kick i would look for some boldenone cyp if i were you...
 

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k does the boldenone cyp kick in quicker?? i can get eq that is boldenone does that make a difference??? sorry its kind of a newbie question

Im not sure you would get 20lbs with 500mg test and 400mg eq seeing how this is your second cycle....but then again the dbol might help. I like to under shoot my weight gain goals now just so i dont get dissappointed lol. You never know the appetite might be effected with you using the EQ but it didnt do much for mine. I loved the vascularity tho! kinda takes to long to kick i would look for some boldenone cyp if i were you...
 
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k does the boldenone cyp kick in quicker?? i can get eq that is boldenone does that make a difference??? sorry its kind of a newbie question
EQ substance name: boldenone undecylenate...many prefer it.
 

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