- 06-15-2003, 10:28 PM
- 06-15-2003, 11:44 PM
xonic2xonic, I understand your skepticism, supp company's are for the most part out there ripping people off. 10 years ago, I was a supplement whore, trying whatever hit the shelves at gnc (c'mon - no www back then, cut me some slack!) - vanadyl, chromium, OKG, MCTs, CoQ10, etc. I spent a ton of money, with no gains. I remember androstendione a few years later, but luckily I had heard the reports of gyno before I got around to trying it out!
The only thing I'll use now is protein from customizer, multivit, green tea, and eca. I tried 1-AD with 4-ad (androspray) 6 months ago (after 2 months of research) and now firmly believe that prohormones DO work. I gained 12 lbs overall (sure, some was water), a surprising amount of strength, and my measurements were up. I also got some sides - lost my libido, a little hair, a little prostate hypertrophy. I kept 8lbs after the 4 week cycle was over, and almost all of my strength.
I've been researching more and more since then, and now I'm a few weeks away from my first 1-test cycle of T-1 Pro (thx steeltown!) I've been taking saw palmetto for my prostate, got some topical spiro for the hair, clomid for post, and nolva just in case.
I tend to trust consistent user feedback more than some supp company's clinical test results that can be massaged, selectively cited, etc. I know there are variables involved, (an 18 yr old, been lifting 6 months, ate 4K cals/day, and gains 15 lbs - well no sh*t! PH or no PH) but you've got to do your research, dig around, and parse the results for yourself. Anyway, keep your healthy skepticism, and if you don't think 1-test will shut you down - just try a good dose for 4 weeks and drop it, w/no post cycle - you'll become a believer pretty quickly! Whatever you decide, good luck!
06-16-2003, 02:00 AM
Hey bro,Originally posted by bigpetefox
For any article that he posts that allegedly shows 1-test is ineffective, look at my avatar and ask yourself again, "Does 1-test really work?
I currently weigh 200lbs. Im 6'0, and BF% is 20%. Right now I just started a cycle of Clenbutrx and Im goin into my 2nd week. So far soo good, but with those stats can I push 1-Test with my Clenbutrx and get to my goal of 12-15% BF, and hit around 180-185lbs. If so I'd have to push 1-Test into week 3 of my Clenbutrx cycle. Im lookin to lose this last bit of gut and harden the f*ck up already lol.
Ill post a pic tommorow hopefully.
P.S. I am doin both bulkin and cuttin, so of course I want to gain muscle weight and lose fat mass at the same time.
06-16-2003, 02:12 AM
ain't no thang the state of the industry makes it extremely easy to be critical, doubtful, etc, etc so I don't think it's an issue... especially b/c at the very LEAST the info is here, free of charge good luck bro.Originally posted by xonic2xonic
I guess I should appologize, I have been pretty ignorant. I just suspected that you people are just here to support the marketing hype for one reason or other.
06-16-2003, 02:25 PM
HardChest !!Originally posted by xonic2xonic
So who finds what the most potent/effective 1-test product?
The best 1-Test on the planet.
06-16-2003, 02:40 PM
The only problem with some of these statements, is that while BDC is providing a pre-mixed suppliment product to the masses. He also puts his recipie out there for anyone to use by buying the products wherever they like. It's not some "top-secret 1000% effective super-deluxe patented delivery system" with more bull**** than a truck full of manure tryin to sell you on it.... And MANY people (myself included) have seen good results from 1-test, again, nothing like injectible AAS, but it definitely works. As fo the lack of belief in clomid/nolva/hcg/etc. It's your endocrine system.
-Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
-Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
*I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
06-16-2003, 03:56 PM
Well, hello there, Big Guy!Originally posted by Blacksmith
The best 1-Test on the planet.
Hard Chest you say? PM me with a source.. **
** This is a joke! Don't ask anyone for a source for anything!! I don't care if Walgreens has kleenex on sale, no PM's for sources!!
06-16-2003, 10:15 PM
06-17-2003, 01:04 AM
Yes, please shove it up your ass, good idea.Originally posted by xonic2xonic
Thanks for the replys.
How about an anal suppository delivery system?
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