The truth about Havoc?

  1. The truth about Havoc?


    Is it really what IBE is claiming it to be, or is this just a failed publicity stunt by IBE to boost their own rep?


  2. I dont think IBE would have sent out an email without back up. All the crap they got over Epi would make me think they would want air tight testing. I know from experiance that IBE has always taken the quality of the supps serious. I dont know anything about RPN, so I really cant comment on what in Havoc or not.

  3. TTT, cant find any epistane but plenty of havoc out there, any of the claims true?
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  4. wow....ive honestly never seen so much controvery over a damn compound. I wish it was just over im getting sick of hearing about it. No offence to you guys inparticular, its just everywhere. I love finding out the truth too, but I really think this (not this thread, but controversy in general) is just alot of bashing by everyone of companies rather then people searching for the truth.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by grantr View Post
    Is it really what IBE is claiming it to be, or is this just a failed publicity stunt by IBE to boost their own rep?
    As I posted in the other thread, this is really terrible for the consumer as the legitimacy of the product is now in question.

  6. My biggest wish at the moment is for people to put all these questions and claims in 1 thread.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    My biggest wish at the moment is for people to put all these questions and claims in 1 thread.
    LOL keep dreaming
    Maybe in a perfect MOD world

  8. Yea I dont jump on the bandwagon to bash products, and my guess is that its probably just a bunch of propaganda bs to hurt Havoc's sales, but I just want to make sure that both products arent tainted in some way as i really want to try either one out. I hate whent his stuff happens because no matter how much I think its a load of bs it still makes me hesitant to buy either product now...oh well hopefully it will be cleared up soon...

  9. Will the drama never end?

  10. What are people saying about Havoc?

  11. I dont care about the drama, or ibe vs rpn...I care about what is going in by body right now

  12. Quote Originally Posted by grantr View Post
    I dont care about the drama, or ibe vs rpn...I care about what is going in by body right now
    Then wait for the test results to be posted.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    My biggest wish at the moment is for people to put all these questions and claims in 1 thread.


  14. Quote Originally Posted by zbtboy View Post
    Will the drama never end?
    Yes, at some point the lawyers will firmly pull the leashes of all parties involved.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by IBE View Post
    Come on guy's do you really think we are that stupid? stay tuned it will get alot worst then this.


    PS. this has to be the biggest war in board history that I have ever seen and I think at the end all three products will be damaged regardless of who wins. you can thank BK for this one.
    very very sad to say the least,everyone loses

  16. I really hope this 3-AD delivers.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ShapeUP View Post
    I really hope this 3-AD delivers.


    Shhhhhh!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by zbtboy View Post
    Then wait for the test results to be posted.
    test results by who? mm said in bb.com that he now cant find a bottle of epi. and he claims he will be going to las vegas and then he will be starting w/a company. and after he starts with whatever company,legaly he won't be able to post any resuts . very interesting.

  19. I always love a good fight
    :bruce3: :bruce3:

  20. Well when MM was saying he had a lab ordering the bottle and he would get results in seven days there were plenty of sites with epistane.

    Like many others have said its all about knowing for sure what is going into our bodies.
  

  
 

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