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Haven't seen one of these polls yet! For those who have used both. Which did you get better gains (strength/size) on. Not taking sides into effect. Epi has way less for sure.
How can you gauge the difference between the two if your running test with the epi:think:I am on day 8 of epi......so far superdrol was much better for strength gains but i'll vote after 2 more weeks
because i ran test with the superdrol both times i used itHow can you gauge the difference between the two if your running test with the epi:think:
Awesome. Let us know. I felt the same way after two weeks on Epi. I bridged over to SD now and may bridge back on a higher dose of the epi after a couple weeks on sd. May shoot for 40-50mg epi. I feel the more ph/aas usage you have in the past the less effective and higher dosage you need with these types of designers.I am on day 8 of epi......so far superdrol was much better for strength gains but i'll vote after 2 more weeks
Good luck and can't wait to see the resultsI am on day 8 of epi......so far superdrol was much better for strength gains but i'll vote after 2 more weeks
That would be a good reason to choose one over the other. Unless of course your cutting.So far epistane for me I have been growing like a weed. Thats because superdrol kills my appetite and epistane seems to give me an open pit for a stomach.
Haha, well that worksbecause i ran test with the superdrol both times i used it
Care to elaborate and not just post random opinions?this poll cant be for real.
I love this guy!well Im pretty sure hes going to say that they are entirely different compounds and react very differently due to glucogen loading etc. But we have to give V00D00 a break.Because from what Ive seen the this "let me rub you raw" delivery system seems to be part of his charm.
Isnt that right V00D00?
What previuos experience do you have with orals?my update:
week 1 @ 30mg - 1 pound gain
week 2 @ 40mg - 0 pound gain
in week 3 @ 50mg - 1 pound gain
also running test and t-4
no strength gain difference from what test usually gives me every week
no increased hair loss or acne
shin pumps are pretty bad if i try to jog anywhere
back pumps occur randomly
however, great pump feeling in the gym @ 20mg pre-workout
much less of a pump @ 10mg pre-workout
no bodyfat change; might be slightly fuller
orals....What previuos experience do you have with orals?
Yea I was on 30mg for a week and a half and lethargy was crazy. It effected my training as well. Bridged over to 40mg Epi which I'm on right now. No lethargy and way better energy. Hopefully I continue to gain. May go up to 50mg.well im on superdrol at 30mgs now, and the only side i have is lethargy.. not even back pumps.. i actually had terrible bp's with xmass.. i dont know why i dont have them with superdrol, but im not complaining!
Same thing for me. Had crazy nose bleeds and high BP. Epi does not raise my BP like SD does or cause nose bleeds.superdrol worked great but gave me crazy lethargy, BP went through the roof w/ horrible nose bleeds, and belated estro rebounds. No more of that for me, going to try epi. How is the BP and lethargy on epi?
u said not taking into account side effects............clearly everyone is going to say Superdrol bar a very small minority.Same thing for me. Had crazy nose bleeds and high BP. Epi does not raise my BP like superdrol does or cause nose bleeds.
for you...not for mePoint is, even when lifting rather heavy, Epi brings great strength gains faster than SD.
I also noticed a lot more strength from the superdrol than i did from the epistanefor you...not for me
you rubbed one off to kill nausea......is there anything it cant do.:lol:Superdrol's strength gains seem to come on a lot quicker than epi... I need to spend more time with epi to come to that conclusion though.
So far, I don't feel like ****. Whereas I'm forcefeeding myself and feeling like absolute crap whenever I'm taking superdrol. I had to smoke weed to kick up my appetite, rub one off or take a long bath to kill the nausea... drink tea and ginger, meditate... blahhh... SD is a toxin. Sure loved the hardness and strength though.
I'm hoping that epi strength and mass gains keep coming though. I'd rather stick with this mild steroid than that horrible SD.
If your bulkin right, you should gain a pound a week anyway, without supps. That doesn't sound very good.I only ran havoc at 20mgs a day(I probably should have bumped it to 30-40), but it really doesn't touch superdrol at 20mgs a day. I really only gained maybe 5 pounds on a 6 week bulk. I got slowly progessively stronger, and had no really bad sides(that does count), but 20 mgs of superdrol would have put 10 pounds on me easily in 4 weeks with an equal if not better strength gain.
How much test are you running? How how many cycles have you done? What is your caloric and protein intake?my update:
week 1 @ 30mg - 1 pound gain
week 2 @ 40mg - 0 pound gain
in week 3 @ 50mg - 1 pound gain
also running test and t-4
no strength gain difference from what test usually gives me every week
no increased hair loss or acne
shin pumps are pretty bad if i try to jog anywhere
back pumps occur randomly
however, great pump feeling in the gym @ 20mg pre-workout
much less of a pump @ 10mg pre-workout
no bodyfat change; might be slightly fuller
I have done two short (21 days at 20 mg) over the last two plus years and had no signs of gyno. I was just thinking, has anyone who used the original ax superdrol had any gyno issues? Maybe some of these clones are poor quality.The thing that always kept me away from Superdrol and still has is the randomly occuring unexpected gyno, i've seen countless threads on boards of guys getting gyno on cycle and after post cycle therapy, and the stuff isn't supposed to aromatize.
I rememeber seeing guys using the name brand product Superdrol by AX getting gyno issues, no one figured that one out though.I have done two short (21 days at 20 mg) over the last two plus years and had no signs of gyno. I was just thinking, has anyone who used the original ax superdrol had any gyno issues? Maybe some of these clones are poor quality.
No one has reported any gyno problems from epistane, it does not aromatize and many report a reduction in gyno. The gains may not be as profound as SD but they will be nice hard, dry gains with minimal side effects.which is more pron to sides, superdrol or epi? can one expect gyno to occur more with SD or epi?
this is an old post but i just saw it...How much test are you running? How how many cycles have you done? What is your caloric and protein intake?
dude run it with test....problem solved......i would NEVER take sd without some test...remember cycles should be a fun experience..not a hellish one....you pulsed for 3 weeks...how often,and what doses??im pulsing superdrol now and tomorrow is my first Havoc day. But after 3 weeks of SD im done. Lethgery out the as$ i hate it, im depressed as sh**, back pumps and im taking taurine 2g but SD gives me a appitete like a horse. I hope Havoc doesnt give me more of a appitete. lol Ill gain alright! Im starting Havoc at 20mgs for 2 days then off 2 days then 30mg for the next 4 weeks and ill up if to 40mg if needed. But ive done 3 other SD and its great but the sides r killing me and i have 2 bottles of org SD left. I just hate wet gains so i gave my Phera to a friend but that stuff made me feel happy