Originally Posted by Solitude

Do you have a suggestion on how much I should dose the 6-OXO Extreme during off days?

The standard serving is 5 caps (300 mg of 6-OXO), I'm thinking of taking 4 caps, but with the combination of havoc and 6-oxo, I'm concerned that it might be too much of estrogen suppression, and it will lead to very dry joints, so should I drop the dosage to 2 caps a day (120 mg of 6-OXO) instead. What do you think about this? Should I keep the dosage at 4 caps a day or 2 caps should be sufficient?



Thank you


P.S. You seem to be making great progress btw, I can't wait to try out the pulsing method myself.

I have been using Alpha drive xl (3 caps per day) on my off days and ATD (25mg at night) a few times a week.

I have never used 6-OXO but I assume it is just like any other aromatase inhibitor~ Best when taken right before bed. I personally start my supplement and cycle regimens in a very conservative manner and adjust from there. I would start at 3-4 caps per day and judge from there whether to stay with that dose or to bump it.
I can say that with my current program I am not shut down at all, Balls are swinging low and I'm popping blue steelies even on my off days.

I think the program you posted earlier looks solid and well thought out

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego

I have been using Alpha drive xl (3 caps per day) on my off days and ATD (25mg at night) a few times a week.

I have never used 6-OXO but I assume it is just like any other aromatase inhibitor~ Best when taken right before bed. I personally start my supplement and cycle regimens in a very conservative manner and adjust from there. I would start at 3-4 caps per day and judge from there whether to stay with that dose or to bump it.
I can say that with my current program I am not shut down at all, Balls are swinging low and I'm popping blue steelies even on my off days.

I think the program you posted earlier looks solid and well thought out

Thanks for the advice!

So im going on vacation for a week no working out and should be a good amnt of booze so should i pause my pulse (SD-Ergo) and take some trib etc to get my libido back all week? :bb3:

Originally Posted by firefighter2032

Hey Doc, (or anyone that can help)

I have some Ergo 1-ad & 4-ad sitting around that I've been waiting to take. Just curious if they'd be good for the idea of pulsing. If so, what would you recommend for doseing.

Thanks

BUMP

Originally Posted by firefighter2032

BUMP

Anythign can be pulsed. It would be no worse at moderate doses then anything else (minus maybe M1-T)

The compound for the most part is irrelivant, as far as dosing proceedures.

Originally Posted by TravisCoSheriff

So im going on vacation for a week no working out and should be a good amnt of booze so should i pause my pulse (superdrol-Ergo) and take some trib etc to get my libido back all week? :bb3:

Why not just take that week off anabolics, and stick to the trib and AI...
This should help with bringing normal hormone levels back around some, ans the pulsing is more based AROUND the workouts...
So if your takign a week off from the gym, you have no workouts to pulse around. (Although tI do understand the wanting to try and prevent some of the damage you may bring upon yourself from the week of partying.. And Iwill admit that on a few occasions, I have poped 10mg SD late on a Saturday night.... this seemed to bring hangovers close to non existant, assuming you also eat a lil somethign and drink some water- although Ive opnly done this maybe twice)

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

Why not just take that week off anabolics, and stick to the trib and AI...
This should help with bringing normal hormone levels back around some, ans the pulsing is more based AROUND the workouts...
So if your takign a week off from the gym, you have no workouts to pulse around. (Although tI do understand the wanting to try and prevent some of the damage you may bring upon yourself from the week of partying.. And Iwill admit that on a few occasions, I have poped 10mg superdrol late on a Saturday night.... this seemed to bring hangovers close to non existant, assuming you also eat a lil somethign and drink some water- although Ive opnly done this maybe twice)

Yep more what I was thinking, just seeing if someone agreed with me to take the week off. My diet should still be good just addin booze to the mix. Holla Im gone for the week!

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

Anythign can be pulsed. It would be no worse at moderate doses then anything else (minus maybe M1-T)

The compound for the most part is irrelivant, as far as dosing proceedures.

Just wanted to make sure it wasn't too "weak" like H-50 that was mentioned previously in the thread.


thanks

Would it still be effective to only pulse 2x week? That is on top of cycling natural test boosters such as Hyperdrol or Diesel Test.

I’m really liking the concept nice steady slow gains with less toxicity and sides.
In addition to the question on 2x week pulsing while cycling test boosters. What about a 3day per week split but broken up as follows.

2on
2off
1on
2off

Thanks for any input,
Kabuki

Originally Posted by firefighter2032

Just wanted to make sure it wasn't too "weak" like H-50 that was mentioned previously in the thread.


thanks

H-50 is just a more mild compound.. most orals will take about 2 weeks to kick in anyways..

ONE of the reasons pulsing is kinda "fun" is becasue you get to see results... yes, not as quick as on cycle, but aver the corse fo a few weeks....
H-50 is no different, except that is is generally not used becasue the advised time "P-cycling" is about 6-8 weeks,..
And gains with H-50 really start to be more steady around week 5

Now,.. I DO beleive that a pulse with H-50 , combined on a training day, with a lil added cardio would provide a nice summer recomp though.. more of a P/C cut, but going about your diet being consistant..
I just remember getting a more leaning effect with H-50, then anything else...
And I suppose a pulse cycle designed not specificly for cutting, but a compound added to preserve mass (maybe gainin) while leaning out could be done..

If I am rambeling, I appoligize.

dr.d awesome thread and info wondering if you have
any suggestions on pulsing Halovar by Purus Labs a month supply, i believe its a Halodrol clone type. i workout out 4 days a week, its a 50mg pill any way to avoid shutdown with this and none over the counter post cycle therapy (if possible).



i also did a 20 day cylce of 11oxo which might or might have not slimmed me down and currently using 6oxo extreme for post cycle therapy which im not sure is even needed cause balls hung to the floor and my sex drive can't be any higher, cause if it was i should be locked up . i do understand i'd have to wait to start the halovar even though 11oxo is thought to be a mild ph but may be you could give me a dosing suggestion.

Originally Posted by StellaArtois

dr.d awesome thread and info wondering if you have
any suggestions on pulsing Halovar by Purus Labs a month supply, i believe its a Halodrol clone type. i workout out 4 days a week, its a 50mg pill any way to avoid shutdown with this and none over the counter post cycle therapy (if possible).



i also did a 20 day cylce of 11oxo which might or might have not slimmed me down and currently using 6oxo extreme for post cycle therapy which im not sure is even needed cause balls hung to the floor and my sex drive can't be any higher, cause if it was i should be locked up . i do understand i'd have to wait to start the halovar even though 11oxo is thought to be a mild ph but may be you could give me a dosing suggestion.

lol- realy?

1 pill daily on workout days

Calibrate..

See above post also on your choice for the pulse

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

lol- realy?

1 pill daily on workout days

Calibrate..

See above post also on your choice for the pulse

wasn't the post above regarding the fake stuff that gaspari sells but has a similar name to the pro hormone?

Originally Posted by StellaArtois

wasn't the post above regarding the fake stuff that gaspari sells but has a similar name to the pro hormone?

H-50 clone means a copy of H-50 = Halodrol
Both HAlodrol, and what ever clone you buy is suposed to be oral Turnabol

the might have traces of DMT in the original batch,.. but that shouldn't make any difference really.

The only people that are making anything about "original Halodrol" are those who have supply left and want to sell it for over $100

and the above post was MY post :P
It addressed using that compound for pulsing.

I do not see where any "fake" was mentioned.. although, If I did miss that,.. I blame it on bad genetics

Originally Posted by kabuki

Would it still be effective to only pulse 2x week? That is on top of cycling natural test boosters such as Hyperdrol or Diesel Test.

I’m really liking the concept nice steady slow gains with less toxicity and sides.
In addition to the question on 2x week pulsing while cycling test boosters. What about a 3day per week split but broken up as follows.

2on
2off
1on
2off

Thanks for any input,
Kabuki

I REALLY like the 2 on, 2 off, 1 on approach.
I allows for a little more glycogen retention over the corse of a few meals. That alone will help you on yourt non pulsing days with stamina and strength.

Let me rephrase that..
I don't divide my doses my more then an hour and a half really.
That allows for a higher peak concentration and shorter clear time.

Soooo it's totally possible , if you eat at 8:30pm,.. to take a dose at 6ish, then one at 8ish... and then do that again the next night.
Thats my ideal 2 ON
... 2 off is self explanitory


It also makes me eat more 2 days in a row-

Originally Posted by xtraflossy

and the above post was MY post :P
It addressed using that compound for pulsing.

I do not see where any "fake" was mentioned.. although, If I did miss that,.. I blame it on bad genetics

no you didn't mention fake i just remember i think gaspari having something similar that had a similar name but was not a ph i just gazed over didn't read the entire post. the halovar is basically a 30 day supply 50mg pills,
do you suggest doing 2on 2off 1on approach or maybe a 1on 2off 2on approach with this PH as well? doing this for 4 weeks with cycle support would anything else be needed since its basically a similar to turnabol.

thanks

What about training intensity on a pulse?

Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND

What about training intensity on a pulse?

It pretty much kicks ass!! LOL- Do you mid clarifying that or does that answer your question?

What do you guys think about Genera Supplements Epidrol, is it a good clone?

Originally Posted by Solitude

What do you guys think about Genera Supplements Epidrol, is it a good clone?

Probably. I never tried it though

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego

Probably. I never tried it though

Seems to be cheapest on the market right now.

Originally Posted by Solitude

Seems to be cheapest on the market right now.

Go for it. I love Epistane. I Just got home from my back workout and my back is so pumped I can barely turn my head... I guess I'd better throw some taurine into the mix Because the pumps got downright painful today. Note to self... no more barbell rows before deadlifts... lol

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego

Go for it. I love Epistane. I Just got home from my back workout and my back is so pumped I can barely turn my head... I guess I'd better throw some taurine into the mix Because the pumps got downright painful today. Note to self... no more barbell rows before deadlifts... lol

Alright, I'll give it a go.

Bro have you tried both Epistane and Havoc? I heard they supose to be the same thing right, but people feel kind of different between one and the other, what was your experience like?

Originally Posted by Solitude

Alright, I'll give it a go.

Bro have you tried both Epistane and Havoc? I heard they supose to be the same thing right, but people feel kind of different between one and the other, what was your experience like?

nah I haven't tried Havoc yet. They both contain the same active constituent but supposedly Havoc has a second ingredient in it to a lesser degree. Either way they both get great reviews and I anticipate epidrol will be no different

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego

nah I haven't tried Havoc yet. They both contain the same active constituent but supposedly Havoc has a second ingredient in it to a lesser degree. Either way they both get great reviews and I anticipate epidrol will be no different

Sounds good, thanks

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego

It pretty much kicks ass!! LOL- Do you mid clarifying that or does that answer your question?

Lol, I mean... Train like you would normally... or should you train like you're "on"?

I have three more questions guys.


It is about pulsing Superdrol, I'm not planning to try it anytime soon, but after reading on how potent it is, I'm tempted to try it out sometimes in the future after my Epi cycle.


1. When pulsing Superdrol @20 mg is it better to split the dosage 10 mg pre-workout and 10 mg post-workout or just take the whole 20 mg pre-workout?

2. Is it better to use 20 mg or 30 mg for pulse cycle?

3. What clones of Superdrol should I get, CEL M-Drol or EST Methyl-Vol?


I'm not sure if this has been asked before in previous pages, please forgive me if it has, I must have missed it.

Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND

Lol, I mean... Train like you would normally... or should you train like you're "on"?

Well, I always train like I'm "on", which is to say I train my ass off. Employ heavy weight, strict form, rest pause, and the eye of the tiger. Don't overtrain. Too many people think you can't overtrain while "on" but you can

Originally Posted by Solitude

I have three more questions guys.


It is about pulsing Superdrol, I'm not planning to try it anytime soon, but after reading on how potent it is, I'm tempted to try it out sometimes in the future after my Epi cycle.


1. When pulsing Superdrol @20 mg is it better to split the dosage 10 mg pre-workout and 10 mg post-workout or just take the whole 20 mg pre-workout?

2. Is it better to use 20 mg or 30 mg for pulse cycle?

3. What clones of Superdrol should I get, CEL M-Drol or EST Methyl-Vol?


I'm not sure if this has been asked before in previous pages, please forgive me if it has, I must have missed it.

1. yes. It's better to dose before and after.

2. Start off at 20 and assess tolerance and gains/sides and judge whether to continue or bump dose. I started sdrol at 10mg/day dosed before w/o and only did 1 week at 20mg. For some reason, I am extremely sensitive to sdrol and gain very easily at a low dose, when I bump dosage to 30mg or more, I don't like the way I feel. (ergomax is the same way for me)

3. That's your call. Besides the original superdrol, the only clone I have used is methyl masterdrol from LG and I would say that it is on par with the orig.