How to "pulse" orals

[machorox123]

a 5 week of SD.He could do it but its not suggested.If he were to do that he would need to do everything perfectly and have a great PCT

Everything should be perfect for every cycle.. Feels me

[BigDawg69]

I say go for the five weeker without pulsing.. Yur logic doesnt really make much sense to me.. Pulsing is usually thought to either minimize suppression and/or liver toxicity.. Yu would hve already been shutdown from running the superdrol for two weeks and as for liver toxicity yu should be ok running it for 5 weeks straight

Basically my theory was that I could put on 10-15lbs during the 2 week straight cycle, then the pulse would allow me to continue making significant gains while also allowing my liver and hormones to recover somewhat.

[Roniboney]

Everything should be perfect for every cycle.. Feels me

As in blood tests before,right after the end of the cycle and after PCT.
Will he be dosing his liver supps at the correct times so that he doesn't counteract his prohormones.

Have you run superdrol?If you have then why would you even consider running it for 5 weeks?

[xtreme1087]

I say go for the five weeker without pulsing.. Yur logic doesnt really make much sense to me.. Pulsing is usually thought to either minimize suppression and/or liver toxicity.. Yu would hve already been shutdown from running the superdrol for two weeks and as for liver toxicity yu should be ok running it for 5 weeks straight

^^^This guy^^^ You would already be shut down after 2 weeks, bro. Either pulse or do an ed cycle. 5 weeks ed is fine. Just utilize your vital support supps.

[Roniboney]

^^^This guy^^^ You would already be shut down after 2 weeks, bro. Either pulse or do an ed cycle. 5 weeks ed is fine. Just utilize your vital support supps.

I agree if your going longer than 4 weeks with superdrol then pulse it.Your pct will be virtually the same anyways.But a 5 week ED cycle of the strongest PH out there is unwise and definately damaging.

[machorox123]

I agree if your going longer than 4 weeks with superdrol then pulse it.Your pct will be virtually the same anyways.But a 5 week ED cycle of the strongest PH out there is unwise and definately damaging.

Not with a low to moderate dose.. Dude cud even split the powder in the caps and ramp up by 5mg at a time instead of 10mg

[SPS]

I agree if your going longer than 4 weeks with superdrol then pulse it.Your pct will be virtually the same anyways.But a 5 week ED cycle of the strongest PH out there is unwise and definately damaging.

One its a steroid not a ph, two you are still wrong 5 weeks at 10 mg of SD a day (with a few days at 20) was the best cycle I have ever ran, literally fewest sides and best gains to date.

[Roniboney]

One its a steroid not a ph, two you are still wrong 5 weeks at 10 mg of SD a day (with a few days at 20) was the best cycle I have ever ran, literally fewest sides and best gains to date.

One every product that alters your hormones are steroids ,I know this so don't patronize me.SD requires no conversion in your body,I know.Case closed.

For a first time cycle I don't think anyone would EVER recommend 5 weeks of superdrol even at a low dose.He can do whatever he want after he finds out how he responds to the sides.If that is a 5 or even 6 week cycle let him do it,but my stance remains the same.

[jbryand101b]

One every product that alters your hormones are steroids ,I know this so don't patronize me.SD requires no conversion in your body,I know.Case closed.

For a first time cycle I don't think anyone would EVER recommend 5 weeks of superdrol even at a low dose.He can do whatever he want after he finds out how he responds to the sides.If that is a 5 or even 6 week cycle let him do it,but my stance remains the same.

every product that alters your homones are not steroids.

im not sure if sps got the idea from me or not, but i've been recomending this for a while now. 10mg of sd will be virtually side free, and bring very nice gains.

if you're going to run sd for a first cycle, 6 weeks at 10mg e/d taken in the am is the best option.

gains will be easy to maintain, sides will be low, and pct will be a breeze.

[SPS]

One every product that alters your hormones are steroids ,I know this so don't patronize me.SD requires no conversion in your body,I know.Case closed.

For a first time cycle I don't think anyone would EVER recommend 5 weeks of superdrol even at a low dose.He can do whatever he want after he finds out how he responds to the sides.If that is a 5 or even 6 week cycle let him do it,but my stance remains the same.

Third if you don't want me to patronize you don't make it so easy, Hahaha, relax

Cuatro, me talking about my personal experience had to do with your comment when you said something about if you have ever run SD why would you recommend a 5 week cycle, in addition to the comment I quoted.

[SPS]

every product that alters your homones are not steroids.

im not sure if sps got the idea from me or not, but i've been recomending this for a while now. 10mg of sd will be virtually side free, and bring very nice gains.

if you're going to run sd for a first cycle, 6 weeks at 10mg e/d taken in the am is the best option.

gains will be easy to maintain, sides will be low, and pct will be a breeze.

I have seen you post about it, and I also have/had a stock pile of SD, but i just can't handle the high bp and lethargy at 30 mg or 20 for an extended period of time.

[JohnBrinks]

Originally Posted by BigDawg69
I was wondering what you guys thought of bridging superdrol into a superdrol pulse. Basically I would do a 2 week normal cycle of superdrol, then continue with a 3x a week pulse to solidify my gains. My thoughts were that my hormones would be able to recover slightly from the normal cycle during the pulse while also continuing to make gains.

I say go for the five weeker without pulsing.. Yur logic doesnt really make much sense to me.. Pulsing is usually thought to either minimize suppression and/or liver toxicity.. Yu would hve already been shutdown from running the superdrol for two weeks and as for liver toxicity yu should be ok running it for 5 weeks straight

Guy machorox123 doesnt get it.

Yeah I think its a really good idea, but I recon you could actually run the normal cycle for longer than 2 weeks, and then continue with a pulse to solidify gains... running liver support allong with it throught I bet is safe enough to run it for 10/12 weeks alltogether. I mean how many reports have we heared now about liver values bieng normal or better after PCT on a straight up no-pulse cycle? The evidence speeks for itself.

Its a no-brainer. But each to his own... at his own risk.

[Roniboney]

Third if you don't want me to patronize you don't make it so easy, Hahaha, relax

Cuatro, me talking about my personal experience had to do with your comment when you said something about if you have ever run SD why would you recommend a 5 week cycle, in addition to the comment I quoted.

Lol ok fair enough.I guess I've been indoctrinated with how strong superdrol is.I apologise.

every product that alters your homones are not steroids.

im not sure if sps got the idea from me or not, but i've been recomending this for a while now. 10mg of sd will be virtually side free, and bring very nice gains.

if you're going to run sd for a first cycle, 6 weeks at 10mg e/d taken in the am is the best option.

gains will be easy to maintain, sides will be low, and pct will be a breeze.

The fact that it's you saying this makes me believe it.I've seen some of your posts,especially in that thread the other day with that guy hating on PH's.With the kind of information in your posts, I must swallow my pride and accept that I'm more than definately wrong.



I was planning on running a SD-Epi bridge in September and I am rethinking it now.Could you shed some info on the pro's and cons of an approach following your guidelines for SD.I have never ran it before.

Should I just run the Epi for 6 weeks along side the superdrol like this:

SD 10/10/10/10/10/10
Epi 30/30/40/40/40/40

or run the SD for the full 6 weeks and begin the Epi in week 3

SD 10/10/10/10/10/10
Epi 0/ 0/30/40/40/40

To everyone who has read my posts ,I apologise for being so headstrong and rude.

[jbryand101b]

well, i like the first one, with sd ran along side epi the whole time, at a low dosage.

you will have to know your body and asses how you are reacting to it during the first few weeks, and decide if you can go up to 40 on the epi or not.
you may just have to keep epi at 30 the whole time, but you should be able to tell by the 3rd week if you can bump it up or not.

I would run a cycle like that, looks good. sd at 10, epi at 30 for 6 weeks, and judge if i can bump it up to 40 on the epi or not. just make sure you have a solid pct planned out and ready to go.

[Roniboney]

well, i like the first one, with sd ran along side epi the whole time, at a low dosage.

you will have to know your body and asses how you are reacting to it during the first few weeks, and decide if you can go up to 40 on the epi or not.
you may just have to keep epi at 30 the whole time, but you should be able to tell by the 3rd week if you can bump it up or not.

I would run a cycle like that, looks good. sd at 10, epi at 30 for 6 weeks, and judge if i can bump it up to 40 on the epi or not. just make sure you have a solid pct planned out and ready to go.

Well my first cycle was Epi at 30/40/40/40/40/40.I responded very well but did get some joint stiffness during the 5th +6th weeks on Epi.
I think the running it at 30mg for the entire cycle may be a good call.

PCT will be a breeze.I have at least 3 cycles worth of pharma grade Nolva on hand and I'd be able to spend at least $400-500 on the support supplements if needs be so I'm sure my on cycle and PCT can be perfect.I've always spent at least 4 times as much on my PCT chems,test boosters,organ support,vitamin,EFA needs than the actual prohormones themselves.

Last cycle was Halodrol and I spent €600 on the entire thing just to make sure.I know its overkill but my paycheck allows it and nothing is more important to my health.Plus being a science student I get free bloods so I can constantly monitor.

This will be my 3rd cycle when I go ahead with it.Thanks for the help mate.

[middleageguy]

did get some joint stiffness

Epi & SD “do not aromatise to estrogen” so more than likely you will experience “Estrogen deprivation” causing your joint stiffness and sore joints.

I believe the natural testosterone levels decrease and there is less to aromatase to estrogen leading to “Estrogen Deprivation” and the symptoms that come with it.

I got the below quote from a website about women and “Estrogen Deficiency Symptoms” but I believe it would still apply to people who dose PH/DS during straight cycles or pulse cycles.

Estrogen deprivation can also make the joints sore and inflamed. A condition known as menopausal arthritis may also develop due to fluctuating estrogen levels. Estrogen is known for its anti-inflammatory properties, so a decrease in its production is likely to cause inflammation of the joints.

I also experienced these symptoms, joints that go snap crackle pop and sore during pulse cycles.
To combat this I have dosed D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) Supplements during my entire pulse cycles, from start throughout pct.
In an attempt to keep my natural testosterone levels or possibly increase them so that some can be aromatase to estrogen and help my joints from going snap crackle pop and sore during pulse cycles.

The dosing of D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) Supplements during my pulse cycles seemed to help my joints.
Now I have no blood workups to backup my theory, but it has worked for me.

I have only done pulse cycles, so I don’t know how effective it would be for straight cycles.

The dosage of aromatase inhibitors such as erase I have read on this and other boards can cause estrogen deprivation symptoms.
Now I’m not saying not to take aromatase inhibitors such as erase if you’re trying to lower estrogen effects for increased muscle gains.

But I would think when dosing aromatase inhibitors. Dosing D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) Supplements during a pulse cycle would not help sore joints.

Dosing D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) Supplements is just something I have experimented with great success during my entire pulse cycles to combat my joints from going snap crackle pop and being sore.
BTW I also dose MSM & Vitamin C.
5 grams MSM(methylsulfonylmethane) {Joint support // Building Healthy Connective Tissues}
5 grams Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) {Joint support // Building Healthy Connective Tissues}



Link to my past progress using pulse cycles --:> 3 SuperDrol Pulses Later : Compare Feb 2011 - Feb 2012

[BigDawg69]

Basically my theory was that I could put on 10-15lbs during the 2 week straight cycle, then the pulse would allow me to continue making significant gains while also allowing my liver and hormones to recover somewhat.

Any other opinions on this? If people think this will shut me down hard and put stress on my liver then I will do a traditional pulse cycle, but I was thinking that I would be able to recover during the pulse before doing PCT

[SPS]

Any other opinions on this? If people think this will shut me down hard and put stress on my liver then I will do a traditional pulse cycle, but I was thinking that I would be able to recover during the pulse before doing PCT

In your original post you said something about continuing to make significant gains, and you won't, the gallons from pulsing are way way less, I have tried it, and it sucked, I just finished the cycle traditionally, I mean try it and let us know, Dr. D gave an esitimate of 60% of the gains compared to a normal cycle, but I think its way less.

And if you consider for example, 10 mg a day of SD is 70 a week. Even just 20 or 30 mg every other day would run you 60 at the low end up to 120 mg a week for your liver to process, how is safer exactly?

[SPS]

My phone sucks gallons = gains, haha

[BigDawg69]

In your original post you said something about continuing to make significant gains, and you won't, the gallons from pulsing are way way less, I have tried it, and it sucked, I just finished the cycle traditionally, I mean try it and let us know, Dr. D gave an esitimate of 60% of the gains compared to a normal cycle, but I think its way less.

And if you consider for example, 10 mg a day of SD is 70 a week. Even just 20 or 30 mg every other day would run you 60 at the low end up to 120 mg a week for your liver to process, how is safer exactly?

Not too worried about my liver, and if I can gain 10lbs from a pulse I will be more than happy. The main reason for me pulsing is to avoid shutdown and not lose gains