How to "pulse" orals

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  1. Gyno?


    Quote Originally Posted by LowKeyLifter View Post
    I've been following this post for awhile and just started an Epistane pulse cycle last Tuesday. The pulse will go as follows:

    Wk 1: (Tue: 10 mg/pre) (Thurs: 10 mg/pre 10 mg/post) (Saturday: 20 mg/pre 10 mg/post)

    Wk 2: 20 mg/pre - 10mg/post

    Wk 3: 20 mg/pre - 10mg/post

    Wk 4: 20 mg/pre - 20mg/post

    Wk 5: 20 mg/pre - 20mg/post

    Wk 6: 30 mg/pre - 20mg/post

    Wk 7: 30 mg/pre - 30mg/post

    Wk 8: (Tues: 30 mg/pre - 20mg/post) (Thurs: 20mg/pre 10 mg/post) (Saturday: 10 mg/pre)
    I am currently in week 4 of this pulse and am up around 5 lbs. Everything is good and the libido is strong. However, I am concerned because my right nipple appears to be a little puffy. It was my understanding that epistane should not cause this. Can this be a result of the bounce back from pulsing. I'm guessing I should run an AI on my off days? Would ATD fit the bill for the rest of the cycle. I definitely want to nip this in the bud before it gets any worse. Right now its just minor and does not itch, hurt, or real noticeable. Any suggestions?


  2. Ok, so if i'm going to be running just epi on a pulse you would suggest an 8 week m/w/f cycle? This would not require a PCT or on cycle supps? On the days i'm not dosing epi could I take my superpump and size on?

    Also, i have a bottle of rebound XT sitting at home that i haven't opened.. could i use this as a PCT? If so... what would my doses on this be?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by newb2 View Post
    Hi,
    Would there be any benefit with mixing supps?
    Eg
    Dosing Mon Wed Fri with Havoc on Mon, PP on Wed and Sdrol on Friday?
    Your thoughts appreciated.
    Simon
    The doc already answered this. I beleive it went along the lines of since the compound has cleared your system by the time of your following dose, it wouldn't matter.

    you could use more androgenic compounds early in the week, and more anabolic later if you liked.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy View Post
    The doc already answered this. I beleive it went along the lines of since the compound has cleared your system by the time of your following dose, it wouldn't matter.

    you could use more androgenic compounds early in the week, and more anabolic later if you liked.
    the mixing method seems to have a lot of room to work with,hey floss on off days is dhea,or anything recomended?? i read through the first 8 pages last night and didn't really see anything.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  5. I have a question about this. Sorry if it's been covered already, i've read most of this thread but didn't see it.

    How does this sound? Using td formestane every day and superdrol pulsed three days a week?

    Is it a good idea or a crappy one?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    the mixing method seems to have a lot of room to work with,hey floss on off days is dhea,or anything recomended?? i read through the first 8 pages last night and didn't really see anything.
    Yeah,.. the mixing methoed CAN be used in MANY ways.. one way I have done it, is if I feel more suppressed one day as opposed to the other, I'll use a more anabolic chemical the next time,.. or get more anabolic as the week progresses, as to not be as supressed when I encounter the weekend (and a few "off" days in a row)

    DHEA CAN be used on off days. There are binnifits to it, although, personally, I get freakn bloated as hell if I use it on off days. This isnt all the time, but the last time I took it, I litterally was in such discomfort after just 25mg I couldnt sleep well. and I was taking an AI
    There are other possitive effects of dhea, but honestly, I beleive yo uget the most bennifit from Retain, for cort blocking. .....no need to introduce any more hormone on an OFF day ya know.. (exception MAY be if yo uhave some hot chick comming over, and you need to perform my favorite excersize; hot chick lap raises :P

    Off days, go for an AI and cort blocking. you can get some HD and retain for pretty cheep right now. So your looking at maybe $80-90 for the entire summer, which, if your a NP whore like the rest of us, helps
    Some weeks into it, you may find you need to include other things... as it just seems that the bouncing back has a reduced effect the longer it goes on.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by gten79 View Post
    So for the record Doc, which one is the better anabolic PP or Ergo? I know they are mainly androgenic, but which of the two is better.

    Because for a while I was under the impression PP was the better compound for strength and mass of the two, but this post has me rethinking everything.

    I own both so any input would be appeciated. Thanks Again.
    On paper PP looks a bit more potent, but to be fair I can not honestly say because I never tried Emax. The theoretical differences seem to be validated in the logs though. PP is less "dirty" with slightly better anabolism than E but E boosts libido better. That would make sense.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Sea223 View Post
    Hey Dr. D

    I'm interested in pulsing M-TST, and taking BAM and JW throughout the cycle.

    I lift M-F and do cardio W-Sun. Would dosing M,T,Th,F be ok?

    Dosing: 2 BAM ED
    3 JW ED

    wk 1: 2mg TST
    2: 4mg TST
    3: 4mg TST
    4: 4mg TST
    5: 6mg TST
    6: 6mg TST
    7: 3 RR
    8: 2 RR
    9: 1 RR
    I've never taken TST before so I wanted to start slowly and see how I respond to it. Any comments are welcome-Thanks
    That looks fine. I meant to finally test TST this week and didn't (will get to it eventually!) but I'm hearing more people complain of headaches. Maybe pulsing will help with that.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    That looks fine. I meant to finally test TST this week and didn't (will get to it eventually!) but I'm hearing more people complain of headaches. Maybe pulsing will help with that.
    Yah tst gave me a headache for three days after I took it at 16mgs one day. I was playing around with the dosing on my pulse and I guess I found the upper limit for me. I havent went this high since, and I dont intend to.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by newb2 View Post
    Hi,
    Would there be any benefit with mixing supps?
    Eg
    Dosing Mon Wed Fri with Havoc on Mon, PP on Wed and Sdrol on Friday?
    Your thoughts appreciated.
    Simon
    Hmmm, that would really best be reserved for someone with at least 5+ years of good, solid experience with this stuff. I'd try to keep it simple till I figured out what worked best and what was toxic personally, it's different from man to man in many cases. Always start simple with low doses and expand on that once you get the feel of it.

    Besides, I'm not sure that would work best anyway. I can see stacking 2 methyls, but there would really be no advantage in what you're considering, unless you just had a bunch of left overs you where trying to use up.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by LowKeyLifter View Post
    I am currently in week 4 of this pulse and am up around 5 lbs. Everything is good and the libido is strong. However, I am concerned because my right nipple appears to be a little puffy. It was my understanding that epistane should not cause this. Can this be a result of the bounce back from pulsing. I'm guessing I should run an AI on my off days? Would ATD fit the bill for the rest of the cycle. I definitely want to nip this in the bud before it gets any worse. Right now its just minor and does not itch, hurt, or real noticeable. Any suggestions?
    Yes, start ATD now and double dose it a few days to see if it helps. If it works, fall back to a single dose on off nights only and see if that resolves things for the rest of the cycle. Keep me posted.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by rybino View Post
    Ok, so if i'm going to be running just epi on a pulse you would suggest an 8 week m/w/f cycle? This would not require a post cycle therapy or on cycle supps? On the days i'm not dosing epi could I take my superpump and size on?

    Also, i have a bottle of rebound XT sitting at home that i haven't opened.. could i use this as a PCT? If so... what would my doses on this be?
    Yes, 8wks is good.

    No, not likely to need a PCT and no liver support. I suggest lipid supps still in many cases, but not crucial with epi.

    Yes, SP and SO are fine for whenever.

    You could use RXT as a PCT, if you do end up needing a mild PCT after all, or take a cap on off nights only to further insure you won't need it later.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy View Post
    The doc already answered this. I beleive it went along the lines of since the compound has cleared your system by the time of your following dose, it wouldn't matter.

    you could use more androgenic compounds early in the week, and more anabolic later if you liked.
    Yeah, you are correct XF. But if he's really that 'new' it might be tricky if something when wrong. If he has problems with any of them, he may not be able to determine which is the issue and I could see it getting complicated real fast. A newb, on 3 methyls at once for the first time, probably asking for trouble!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Stavross View Post
    I have a question about this. Sorry if it's been covered already, i've read most of this thread but didn't see it.

    How does this sound? Using td formestane every day and superdrol pulsed three days a week?

    Is it a good idea or a crappy one?
    Very nice! Even at 4 days a week I'd say. That formestane keeps things clicking right on time for a month or more in my experience, even with large doses of test.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by haroldjg View Post
    Yah tst gave me a headache for three days after I took it at 16mgs one day. I was playing around with the dosing on my pulse and I guess I found the upper limit for me. I havent went this high since, and I dont intend to.
    Man, a 3 day residual headache may suggest that even on pulse it could still be a problem.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    would it be bad to pulse 4 days? and should i start at 20mg and move to 30mg. I have heard your doses can be larger but i don't think i would need to go over 30mg? tell me if that sounds right. say i am taking 30mg should i dose more of it before the workout or after
    3-4 days a week is just right.

    Yes, always start low and only take as much as you need. If 30mg works, keep it there and don't go higher!

    I'd take the bigger dose before a w/o, but it's important to take a dose after too, even if it's the lesser of 2 doses (with methyls at least).

    A test booster on off days is fine. So is an anti-cort and/or anti-e.

  17. hey D,is there any safe way to incorparate m1t into a pulse..for example say (monday) epi,(wed) m1t, (sat)epi....just currious.Not just with epi,but something like that...i don't really plan to run that i was wondering what your 2 cents were tho....
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    That looks fine. I meant to finally test TST this week and didn't (will get to it eventually!) but I'm hearing more people complain of headaches. Maybe pulsing will help with that.
    Thanks Dr. D. I've started it and have been having issues with anxiety, even at the 2mg dose. My body's being retarded. I'm going to stick with the BAM/JW right now and may try TST later. Thanks for the reply though.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    hey D,is there any safe way to incorparate m1t into a pulse..for example say (monday) epi,(wed) m1t, (sat)epi....just currious.Not just with epi,but something like that...i don't really plan to run that i was wondering what your 2 cents were tho....
    If there was any 'safe' way to use M1T, that would probably be it! Either that or use low doses (1.25-2.5mg pre-w/o only, I've tried that before). M1T seems like it'd be great on a pulse due to the long acting effects, but the shutdown happens so fast that even pulsing might not save you from needing a PCT with it. 10mg once a week might be your best shot at incorporating it, just like you were thinking.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Sea223 View Post
    Thanks Dr. D. I've started it and have been having issues with anxiety, even at the 2mg dose. My body's being retarded. I'm going to stick with the BAM/JW right now and may try TST later. Thanks for the reply though.
    Sounds smart.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Sounds smart.
    Thanks boss, I'll keep you posted.

  22. I appreciate it dr d. You have your work cut out answering all these questions. thanks again

  23. Thanks for the reply Dr.D
    Appreciated.

  24. Please feel free to PM anytime guys. If I miss a question here or you run into any complications on or after your cycle, or the question is more personal, or whatever, chances are I've been there myself and can help so PM and I'll tell you what I know!
  25. 200lbs


    I can officially be considered a 200lb beast! 5 weeks as of today pulsing superdrol. Started at 184.5lbs. I wouldn't consider this a clean bulk but not a dirty bulk either, I guess in between. This is how my weight increase has changed as of today:
    Started off at 184.5
    End of Week 1- 190.5
    Week 2- 192.5
    Week 3- 194.5
    Week 4- 197.5
    Week 5- 200
    And the best thing is that my libido has not dropped at all.
    Dosed 30mg 4x/week and will continue until the end of 7 weeks.
    Other Supplements include:
    Cycle Support only 1 scoop 8 hours after last dose of SD
    Fish Oil 8-12g
    Anabolic Pump Ended this 1 week ago
    Anabolic Window for post workout
    Retain 2- off days
    Super Cissus
    Beta-Alanine
    Taurine
    15g Bcaa's throughout the day (not including from protein)

    Thanks Dr.D and Crunch for the help.

  26. are you gym rat from bodyspace?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by gymrat5713 View Post
    I can officially be considered a 200lb beast! 5 weeks as of today pulsing superdrol. Started at 184.5lbs. I wouldn't consider this a clean bulk but not a dirty bulk either, I guess in between. This is how my weight increase has changed as of today:
    Started off at 184.5
    End of Week 1- 190.5
    Week 2- 192.5
    Week 3- 194.5
    Week 4- 197.5
    Week 5- 200
    And the best thing is that my libido has not dropped at all.
    Dosed 30mg 4x/week and will continue until the end of 7 weeks.
    Other Supplements include:
    Cycle Support only 1 scoop 8 hours after last dose of superdrol
    Fish Oil 8-12g
    Anabolic Pump Ended this 1 week ago
    Anabolic Window for post workout
    Retain 2- off days
    Super Cissus
    Beta-Alanine
    Taurine
    15g Bcaa's throughout the day (not including from protein)

    Thanks Dr.D and Crunch for the help.
    congrat.....rat...oh.my nat...just don't get fat...

    Seriously, way to go, cause I know there is a lot of hard work in there too!!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stavross
    I have a question about this. Sorry if it's been covered already, i've read most of this thread but didn't see it.

    How does this sound? Using td formestane every day and superdrol pulsed three days a week?

    Is it a good idea or a crappy one?


    Very nice! Even at 4 days a week I'd say. That formestane keeps things clicking right on time for a month or more in my experience, even with large doses of test.
    Cheers Doc.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    are you gym rat from bodyspace?
    Bro there's alot of gymrats out there. But no I am not.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by peece View Post
    congrat.....rat...oh.my nat...just don't get fat...

    Seriously, way to go, cause I know there is a lot of hard work in there too!!
    Lol. Yeah it's been alot of hard work but I loved every second of it. Except paying the grocery bill. Never knew boneless chicken and steak can get so expensive when your eating it everyday. I'm gonna add more cardio to my schedule, at least 4x a week. But for being 5'9 I'm happy at this weight
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