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new liver killer?

lennoxchi

lennoxchi

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just got an e-mail about a new product from Black Dragon Labs......might be talk of it.....METHYLSTANE, with an anabolic to androgenic value of 12, promotes lean mass and strength gains. It contains the active ingredient 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol which does not aromatize and posses an antiestrogenic effect.
 
is there any reason that epistane/havoc/ect will hurt the liver less than SD?
 
Is this thread about Lindsay Lohan?
 
B4n3 0n3 said:
is there any reason that epistane/havoc/ect will hurt the liver less than superdrol?
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I'm sure there is a reason (but I'm not qualified to explain). However, people who have gotten blood work during epi cycles have shown remarkably little change in liver values. Your mileage may vary but it appears to be pretty safe on liver values.
 
yeahright said:
I'm sure there is a reason (but I'm not qualified to explain). However, people who have gotten blood work during epi cycles have shown remarkably little change in liver values. Your mileage may vary but it appears to be pretty safe on liver values.
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Is it because the epistane is a 17a-methyl vs. the sd being a 17a-dymethyl?
 
RPN: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a space freighter.
IBE: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved.
RPN: You fought in the Clone Wars?
IBE: Yes, I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father.
RPN: I wish I'd known him.
IBE: He was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself. And he was a good friend. Which reminds me...

later in a sequal: or was it a prequal?

RPN: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Black dragon labs: No. I am your father.
RPN: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
 
sweet-physique said:
RPN: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a space freighter.
IBE: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved.
RPN: You fought in the Clone Wars?
IBE: Yes, I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father.
RPN: I wish I'd known him.
IBE: He was the best star-pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself. And he was a good friend. Which reminds me...

later in a sequal: or was it a prequal?

IBE: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Black dragon labs: No. I am your father.
IBE: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
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Best....Post.......of the last 15 min!
 
yeahright said:
I'm sure there is a reason (but I'm not qualified to explain). However, people who have gotten blood work during epi cycles have shown remarkably little change in liver values. Your mileage may vary but it appears to be pretty safe on liver values.
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I'm planning on running it soon with 1/2 daily dose of cycle support (I'm a poor student)...If I disappear after next month, I died.
 
PumpingIron said:
So IBE is Luke and RPN is Obi Wan and BDL is Darth...???
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who the hell knows-or cares

I was just trying to capture some of the dramatic intrigue and irony that has surrounded the whole mthyl-epi controversy-

what is it really-
I invented this first-
I brought it to market first-
my chinese lab guy has a bigger chemistry set than yours-

did all the drama really matter as apparently the clone wars are upon us?
While I stoutly applaud the company and person who brough this to market-I am yet to have decided for myself who that really is.

who wins the battle
1) a handfull of jedi knights
2)a vast host of cloned bounty hunters who evolve and become storm troopers
3)an easily replicated cheaply produced droid army

4)none of the above- the jacked wookie who looks as though he has done enough anabolic steroids to load at death star and kill jaba the hut a the same time.

5) it was a team effort

:icon_lol:
 
Furthermore, Darth is the biggest bad ass in the whole 6 released eps...He jsut blows up planets...Black Dragon Labs can't be darth.
 
thesinner said:
Exactly.

There's only one alkylation on the 17th carbon. Your previous post implied that there was 2 alkylations on the 17th carbon.
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I'm no chemist I was just wondering if there was some reason for the epi to be less toxic to the liver.
 
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