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Havoc...ramp up or down?

Hyde12

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I got my Havoc in yesterday and I'm confused on whether I should start out at 3 caps and end with 1 or start out with one and end with 3. I was thinking I should ramp down to avoid estrogen rebound. I'm not sure if estrogen rebound is an issue though.
 
It is best to start with 10mg for at least the first few days. You can increase from there.
The way I dose mine is 20mg on Non-workout days and 30mg on Wo-days. My last week I plan on doing 30mg on Non and 40mg on Wo-days.
 
hill5673 said:
Yes, no matter how you dose it you will need post cycle therapy. Good Call :head:
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Yes, I know this. I just was trying to decide on using an AI with my Torem since Havoc is already an anti-e then I would think that a SERM would fine.
 
Hyde12 said:
Yes, I know this. I just was trying to decide on using an AI with my Torem since Havoc is already an anti-e then I would think that a SERM would fine.
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Personally, I am going to do Toremifene along with Restore for my PCT. That should cover cortisol as well. From what I've read the AI in Restore is fairly mild in comparison to some others.
 
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