I have been trying to decide to do a 1 - test / 4 ad 4 week cycle or a three week tansdermal fina/ 4 ad. Has anyone tried both? Kilosport was 20 grams of 1 test for 70.00 which is pretty much the same price as 4 grams of fina. I was also wondering what the optimal dose of 1 -test would be. For 4 AD seemed to be about a gram a day. I tried 1-AD at about 600mg a day with good results. I weigh allot about 290 now so I am sure I would probably need more than someone who weighs 180.