stupid question about havoc/epistane

[wojo]

ok,im in the middle of post cycle therapy with a serm inverse to a AI protocol.Now im sitting here wondering how long before i can run Havoc again,being that havoc has anti-estro properties and i have been running a AI post cycle.Can i go right into a cycle say 2-4 weeks after Pct,or wait longer?

[motiv8er]

Hey Wojo,

How long was your previous cycle and how much Ept were you running? Also, should you run it again soon, are you ready to do another follow-up PCT?

[wojo]

ran it at 4 weeks 30mgs.i always have post cycle ready..nolva right now but i think im going to buy tor for this run and im going to use testrenx with havoc for this run

[macedaddy]

ok,im in the middle of post cycle therapy with a serm inverse to a AI protocol.Now im sitting here wondering how long before i can run Havoc again,being that havoc has anti-estro properties and i have been running a AI post cycle.Can i go right into a cycle say 2-4 weeks after post cycle therapy,or wait longer?

recommendation is thus:
4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, 4 weeks clean...rinse, repeat!

[wojo]

recommendation is thus:
4 weeks on, 4 weeks post cycle therapy, 4 weeks clean...rinse, repeat!

ok thats what i figured just wanted to make sure..thanx

[mr athlete]

recommendation is thus:
4 weeks on, 4 weeks post cycle therapy, 4 weeks clean...rinse, repeat!

Hey macedaddy, would you recommend the same dosage as first cycle? Or does it need ramped up?

[macedaddy]

a good FIRST cycle for those individuals of PROPER AGE.......
week1 - 10mg per day
week2 - 20mg per day
week3 - 30mg per day
week4 - 30mg per day
week5 - 30mg per day
week 6-9 - post cycle therapy

Proper support supplements the ENTIRE cycle!

[mr athlete]

Hey macedaddy, would you recommend the same dosage as first cycle? Or does it need ramped up?

macedaddy, I appologize I ment to ask about the second cycle. What would that look like? 10mgs per week added to the first dosing?

[macedaddy]

oh, i would say same dosing in your second cycle depending on your personal preferences and how you are feeling....

I am by no means an IBE rep, but have seen people go as high as 40mg in a cycle. I went to 40mg during the last week of MY cycle.

[Big BAMA]

Wojo, there are no stupid questions just Dumba$$'s asking them. Just kidding good question.

[mmowry]

Id start you second cycle with 10mg less than your final dose of the first cycle and see if you make gains.Theres no sense in taking more than necessary .
If you feel the gains are slowing or stalled jump up 10mg.

I love this stuff!I cant wait to go on another run.

[freezito]

wojo, had did the first cycle workout for you? gains? sides?

[wojo]

first cycle worked great..gained 7 lbs ..basically went 3 weeks and then my diet feel apart the 4th week.i was not as disciplined as i would like,stress from work and home interferred,did the pct serm inverse to a AI.overall its a fantastic productcant wait to run it again..aiming for may..that will give me time to get all the support supps ready and nail down a good regimented diet

mmowry-now that i tried this i am going to incorporate another compound with it..i will prob run it at 20mgs this time.i am debating on what to use as i have a nice size stockpile .shame its a methyl i have ergomax and phera i would love to run

[motiv8er]

first cycle worked great..gained 7 lbs ..basically went 3 weeks and then my diet feel apart the 4th week.i was not as disciplined as i would like,stress from work and home interferred,did the post cycle therapy serm inverse to a AI.overall its a fantastic productcant wait to run it again..aiming for may..that will give me time to get all the support supps ready and nail down a good regimented diet

mmowry-now that i tried this i am going to incorporate another compound with it..i will prob run it at 20mgs this time.i am debating on what to use as i have a nice size stockpile .shame its a methyl i have ergomax and phera i would love to run

I think running Anabolic Pump sounds quite sexy with this product IMO.

[wojo]

i got 100 grams of yellow gold left i will prob use