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    I'm kinda bored and I wanted to get some thoughts on additions/subtractions....

    Cycle Experience (4)
    1) 10 weeks 500mg enanthate
    2) 11 weeks 500mg enanthate/10 weeks 360mg eq
    3) 10 weeks 250mg sust EOD/4 weeks 30mg superdrol
    4) 13 weeks 720mg enanthate/sd/zol/trn/clen

    5'10"..200lbs..7% bodyfat..great diet..train MMA 2x week..play Hockey 1x per week..take plenty of supps including cycle support..

    currently on week 5 of this..

    1- 840mg enanthate / 20mg dbol
    2- 840mg enanthate / 25mg dbol
    3- 840mg enanthate / 25mg dbol
    4- 840mg enanthate / 30mg dbol
    5- 840mg enanthate / 30mg dbol / 50-100mcg T-4
    6- 840mg enanthate / 100-150mcg T-4
    7- 840mg enanthate / 200mcg T-4
    8- 840mg enanthate / 200mcg T-4
    9- 840mg enanthate / 200mcg T-4
    10- 840mg enanthate / 40mg epistane / 200mcg T-4
    11- 840mg enanthate / 40mg epistane / 200mcg T-4
    12- 840mg enanthate / 50mg epistane / 200mcg T-4
    13- 840mg enanthate / 50mg epistane / 100-150mcg T-4
    14- 840mg enanthate / 50mg epistane / 50-100mcg T-4
    15- 840mg enanthate / 50mg epistane
    16- 50mg epistane
    17- 50mg epistane
    18- IGF-1 / 150mg clomiphene / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 200mg dhea
    19- IGF-1 / 100mg clomiphene / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 150mg dhea
    20- IGF-1 / 60mg tamoxifen / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 100mg dhea
    21- IGF-1 / 40mg tamoxifen / 50mg atd / 50mg dhea
    22- 20mg tamoxifen / 50mg atd
    23- 50mg atd
    24- x
    25- x
    26- IGF-1
    27- IGF-1
    28- IGF-1
    29- IGF-1
    30- x
    31- x
    32- x
    33- x
    34- IGF-1
    35- IGF-1
    36- IGF-1
    37- IGF-1
    38-(1)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq / 24mg SD
    39-(2)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq / 24mg SD
    40-(3)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq / 24mg SD
    41-(4)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq / 24mg SD
    42-(5)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    43-(6)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    44-(7)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    45-(8)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    46-(9)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    47-(10)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    48-(11)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    49-(12)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    50-(13)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    51-(14)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    52-(15)- 600mg enanthate / 400mg deca / 400mg eq
    53-(16)- 600mg enanthate
    54-(17)- x
    55-(18)- x
    56-(19)- IGF-1 / 150mg clomiphene / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 200mg dhea
    57-(20)- IGF-1 / 100mg clomiphene / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 150mg dhea
    58-(21)- IGF-1 / 60mg tamoxifen / 25mg atd / IBE cort / 100mg dhea
    59-(22)- IGF-1 / 40mg tamoxifen / 50mg atd / 50mg dhea
    60-(23)- 20mg tamoxifen / 50mg atd
    61-(24)- 50mg atd
    62-(25)- x
    63-(26)- x


    -I may incorporate Epistane and/or T-4 again in the 2nd cycle, depending on how this first one goes.

    -Considering PegMGF in addition to IGF-1.

    -I also have Pheraplex and Clenbuterol/Ketotifen on hand.

    Goals:
    -215lbs after 1st cycle
    -210lbs maintained between cycles
    -225lbs after 2nd cycle

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    deca and eq in same cycle?

    i would take more time off.

    840mg test e at only 200 lbs???
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    -i have somewhat of a short layoff inbetween because i want to be done the second one come spring next year
    -however, i may add an additional 4 weeks off and 4 weeks of IGF allowing for 8 more weeks before the 2nd cycle

    -deca and eq have great reviews of being synergistic together
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    Now that is a cycle! You're gonna run a little letro or something too right? Like 0.1mg/day or 0.25mg EOD? At least in wks 1-9 and 42-53? I think you'll gain more weight than you think, if you eat right. Looks good though. Man on a mission!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dead_i_katid View Post
    deca and eq in same cycle?

    i would take more time off.

    840mg test e at only 200 lbs???
    Just what I thought, deca and eq are both progestins right? Pointless to stack them.

    And at 200lbs 500 mg test e is more than enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke1984 View Post
    Just what I thought, deca and eq are both progestins right? Pointless to stack them.

    And at 200lbs 500 mg test e is more than enough.
    no, no and uh no.
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    I'm guessing the "x" only means a week off the gear not training completely? Surely your body is going to need some time to recover during the year. That's a huge cycle..........and one hell of a log!
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    i saw a dramatic difference between 500mg and 720mg of test.

    the "x" only represents that i won't be taking anything during that time, i will always be training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Now that is a cycle! You're gonna run a little letro or something too right? Like 0.1mg/day or 0.25mg EOD? At least in wks 1-9 and 42-53? I think you'll gain more weight than you think, if you eat right. Looks good though. Man on a mission!
    yep..i'm currently running letro too
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke1984 View Post
    Just what I thought, deca and eq are both progestins right? Pointless to stack them.
    wrong.
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    I personally would drop the superdrol from the second phase and just bookend with Prop (which means BOTH ends).

    Watch for glands... long cycles seem to bring them out, even in people who don't have symptoms from the compounds used previously.

    I'd also watch out for overtraining with all the aerobic exercise.. keep those cals up high, and higher.

    Just a thought Tom, as I see you are very interested in cycle plans, and just flat out anabolics in general.. Always remember you don't need them... I don't want to sound preachy but I kind of had an epiphany, or rather caught myself becoming too engrossed in chemical support and was using it to correct flaws in my diet/training. You can get psychologically dependent on it, especially during long ones... the times off will get shorter.. and shorter. Please just be aware.. unless you plan on using your body for a career.. keep your health/safety in mind ... at least place it higher than vanity.

    As I said, I really don't want to sound preachy.. I just experienced this, so ... you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous View Post
    I personally would drop the superdrol from the second phase and just bookend with Prop (which means BOTH ends).

    Watch for glands... long cycles seem to bring them out, even in people who don't have symptoms from the compounds used previously.

    I'd also watch out for overtraining with all the aerobic exercise.. keep those cals up high, and higher.

    Just a thought Tom, as I see you are very interested in cycle plans, and just flat out anabolics in general.. Always remember you don't need them... I don't want to sound preachy but I kind of had an epiphany, or rather caught myself becoming too engrossed in chemical support and was using it to correct flaws in my diet/training. You can get psychologically dependent on it, especially during long ones... the times off will get shorter.. and shorter. Please just be aware.. unless you plan on using your body for a career.. keep your health/safety in mind ... at least place it higher than vanity.

    As I said, I really don't want to sound preachy.. I just experienced this, so ... you know.

    the hockey will be out after about 5 more weeks

    yes i definitely see what you're saying...in a way i am somewhat lucky as i do not have a reliable source...i will always take long durations off...if i stuck to this plan then it would be by far my shortest duration off...i'm pretty sure i'm going to add 4 weeks off and 4 more weeks of igf-1 before the 2nd cycle

    i have fitness modeled for one magazine and my goal is to get more...oh yea and lift ridiculous amounts of weight...anddddddd bang more girls
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    No Tren? how sad.
    but yeah looks good.
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    Dude, Read Chem Musc Enhancement 2, BTPF by L Rea


    It'll give you a whole new perspective on long term steroid use. I used to think like you. Long, heavy cycles back to back with minimal lay off. The bigger you get, the more juice you need to progress. Keep trying to switch it up and trick your body to blast past plateaus.

    'Chemical Muscle Enhancement 2, Building the Perfect Beast' changed my life. Now I'm continually making impressive gains at a fraction of the dosages I used to think were for p#ssies.

    Read that book, and just give it a try. You'll be amazed! You can almost continuously cycle between Absolute Anabolic Phases, Max Androgen Phases, and Cortisol/Estrogen Suppression Phases for maximum growth without down-time and minimum side effects both short and long term.

    It is the most intriguing and inspiring in-depth look at steroid use I have ever come across.

    Give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trex5552005 View Post
    It'll give you a whole new perspective on long term steroid use. I used to think like you. Long, heavy cycles back to back with minimal lay off. The bigger you get, the more juice you need to progress. Keep trying to switch it up and trick your body to blast past plateaus.

    'Chemical Muscle Enhancement 2, Building the Perfect Beast' changed my life. Now I'm continually making impressive gains at a fraction of the dosages I used to think were for p#ssies.

    Read that book, and just give it a try. You'll be amazed! You can almost continuously cycle between Absolute Anabolic Phases, Max Androgen Phases, and Cortisol/Estrogen Suppression Phases for maximum growth without down-time and minimum side effects both short and long term.

    It is the most intriguing and inspiring in-depth look at steroid use I have ever come across.

    Give it a try.
    Awesome thanks i will definitely pick it up and read it..i love reading about this stuff anyway

    And for the tren..i'm too concerned with hair loss for now..hah probably the least important side effect i should worry about
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    Looks nice… I don’t like your X weeks though.

    I’m running test e, test p, deca and eq myself… I noticed a difference after I added the eq.

    I’m on this indefinitely…

    Good stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by trex5552005 View Post
    It'll give you a whole new perspective on long term steroid use. I used to think like you. Long, heavy cycles back to back with minimal lay off. The bigger you get, the more juice you need to progress. Keep trying to switch it up and trick your body to blast past plateaus.

    'Chemical Muscle Enhancement 2, Building the Perfect Beast' changed my life. Now I'm continually making impressive gains at a fraction of the dosages I used to think were for p#ssies.

    Read that book, and just give it a try. You'll be amazed! You can almost continuously cycle between Absolute Anabolic Phases, Max Androgen Phases, and Cortisol/Estrogen Suppression Phases for maximum growth without down-time and minimum side effects both short and long term.

    It is the most intriguing and inspiring in-depth look at steroid use I have ever come across.

    Give it a try.

    I want to check that out too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Looks nice… I don’t like your X weeks though.

    I’m running test e, test p, deca and eq myself… I noticed a difference after I added the eq.

    I’m on this indefinitely…

    Good stack
    What changes do you suggest?

    And what length/dosage is everything in ur test/deca/eq cycle?
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    wow kick ass tom...goodluck!
  

  
 

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