[Markum1]

What is the shelf life of Superdrol if stored in a dry cool place?

[livebono]

At the least, until the expiration date on the bottle, after that, it won't hurt to take it, products usually just start to lose potency

[Markum1]

That's the strange thing about it, I can't find an expiration date on the bottle?

[livebono]

Hmmm...most products are good for about a year, year and a half or so. Maybe 2 years, but that would be the max

[livebono]

From looking at some other threads, I'd say you have about two years on it, because most seem to think it's good for about a year after the expiration date, if it's in a cool, dry place.

One guy said he refrigerates his in a ziploc bag, but that sounds fishy to me

[Markum1]

Thanks for the replies. I was wondering if the chemical properties actually change after a period of time? or if just lowers the effectiveness? Just curious.

[livebono]

From what I understand, the chemical properties won't change, the product will slowly lose potency

[Markum1]

Thanks for the input bro.

[livebono]

No problem, good luck with the superdrol, I've heard some awesome things about it

[Markum1]

This will be my 2nd run on it. I have to tell you, I loved it last time. I felt great... other than the back pumps.

[livebono]

Ive heard about the back pumps. I used phera-plex several times, but never superdrol. I loved the phera, and never had any back pumps

[MystikalSoul]

i heard that if u vaccum seal and put it in freezer it will be good for like 10 years

[chainsaw]

Originally Posted by MystikalSoul

i heard that if u vaccum seal and put it in freezer it will be good for like 10 years

I hope this is the case because I have 2 Bottles of SD and 6 bottles of S1+ I bought 2 years ago and then vaccum sealed and had frozen.

[sock]

Originally Posted by livebono

At the least, until the expiration date on the bottle, after that, it won't hurt to take it, products usually just start to lose potency

More happens than lost of potency. For each molecule of the active lost something else has to form (mass balance). These molecules that form - degradate products. They may be harmful. The only way to determine that is to monitor long term stability of SD or do forced degradation studies to form possible products that may form over a long periond of time.

As previous posts have metioned, best storage conditions are vacuum sealed and frozen. You want to limit exposure to heat, light, moisture and oxygen all can have a negative effect on compounds. How long will freezing and vacumm sealing extend expiry? Compound dependant, and the only way to confirm is to generate long term stability data at those conditions. Generally speaking though, I would believe, at the minimum you can double expiry with vacuum sealed frozen.

[MystikalSoul]

amen to that

Originally Posted by sock

More happens than lost of potency. For each molecule of the active lost something else has to form (mass balance). These molecules that form - degradate products. They may be harmful. The only way to determine that is to monitor long term stability of superdrol or do forced degradation studies to form possible products that may form over a long periond of time.

As previous posts have metioned, best storage conditions are vacuum sealed and frozen. You want to limit exposure to heat, light, moisture and oxygen all can have a negative effect on compounds. How long will freezing and vacumm sealing extend expiry? Compound dependant, and the only way to confirm is to generate long term stability data at those conditions. Generally speaking though, I would believe, at the minimum you can double expiry with vacuum sealed frozen.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by sock

More happens than lost of potency. For each molecule of the active lost something else has to form (mass balance). These molecules that form - degradate products. They may be harmful. The only way to determine that is to monitor long term stability of superdrol or do forced degradation studies to form possible products that may form over a long periond of time.

As previous posts have metioned, best storage conditions are vacuum sealed and frozen. You want to limit exposure to heat, light, moisture and oxygen all can have a negative effect on compounds. How long will freezing and vacumm sealing extend expiry? Compound dependant, and the only way to confirm is to generate long term stability data at those conditions. Generally speaking though, I would believe, at the minimum you can double expiry with vacuum sealed frozen.

I really doubt all that. To each his own though. It will keep its potency and last several years after the expiration date as long as it is stored in a cool dry place. If you freeze it you are introducing moisture into the product and it will degrade faster.

[MystikalSoul]

can we get more info on this? there seems to be 2 different views

[sock]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I really doubt all that. To each his own though. It will keep its potency and last several years after the expiration date as long as it is stored in a cool dry place. If you freeze it you are introducing moisture into the product and it will degrade faster.

Do you understand what a vacuum is? You are not introducing moisture, you are removing all matter (including water - moisture). Also, if you want a reaction (formation of degradate products) to go forward, lower the activation energy. How to you do that? Add heat - energy (or add a catalyst). Slow a reaction? Raise the activation energy, that is, increasing energy required for a reaction to go forward, therfore preventing degradation products to go foward. I will note, some reactions can go faster at lower temperatures, though I have never heard it for small molecules.

What is your basis, that is data, for SD to retain its potency for years after its expiry? I bet you Designer Supps doesn't even have these data.

The reason I posted what I did is for caution's sake. SD is nothing to mess with as it is, let alone years passed expiry. I think it would be wise to consider what can possibly happen to a compound over the long term.

I don't mind that you don't take my word, at least someone is thinking about it. You should always use caution and educate yourself as to what you are taking. A general chemistry book will give a good explaination of reaction kinetics and there are tons of scientific publications on small molecule degradation. I am hardly an expert but I know enough that when something loses potency, that loss has to be made up somewhere (mass balance). A typicall % Label Claim test may not detect (be stability indicating) degradation products. Just because they are not detected by a particular analytical method does not mean they don't exist.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by sock

Do you understand what a vacuum is? You are not introducing moisture, you are removing all matter (including water - moisture). Also, if you want a reaction (formation of degradate products) to go forward, lower the activation energy. How to you do that? Add heat - energy (or add a catalyst). Slow a reaction? Raise the activation energy, that is, increasing energy required for a reaction to go forward, therfore preventing degradation products to go foward. I will note, some reactions can go faster at lower temperatures, though I have never heard it for small molecules.

What is your basis, that is data, for superdrol to retain its potency for years after its expiry? I bet you Designer Supps doesn't even have these data.

The reason I posted what I did is for caution's sake. SD is nothing to mess with as it is, let alone years passed expiry. I think it would be wise to consider what can possibly happen to a compound over the long term.

I don't mind that you don't take my word, at least someone is thinking about it. You should always use caution and educate yourself as to what you are taking. A general chemistry book will give a good explaination of reaction kinetics and there are tons of scientific publications on small molecule degradation. I am hardly an expert but I know enough that when something loses potency, that loss has to be made up somewhere (mass balance). A typicall % Label Claim test may not detect (be stability indicating) degradation products. Just because they are not detected by a particular analytical method does not mean they don't exist.

Well you said vacuum sealed, and frozen. I didn't read it as both. My mistake. I just don't think it will lose potentcy because I have used some products at least 3 years after expire date with no loss in quality or potentcy from when I used it the last time. I store my stuff in a cool cabinet. Not vacuum sealed, but still good. Also I have some 4ad powder purchased right before the 04 ban and I'm just hyping myself up - wanting it to still be good. It still looks good, it has the same consistancy...I also have some phenibut powder I purchased the same time period and it works just as well as when I purchased it.....Sorry I guess I sounded like an ass, didn't mean too.