Trials and Tribulations have come to an end!! My current cycle!

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    Not doing Keto, but above maintenance in caloric intake.

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    DAY 10:

    Well I have been off for two days (body needed it bad) so I am back in the gym tonight. We will see how I feel strength wise, etc.
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    Day 11:

    I have gone up to 6ml twice a day on my dosing. Everything is well and Im feeling fine in my prostate/epididimal areas. It's interesting to me that I now feel better while on than I did androgen free before I started. I don't get it but I hope that after the cycle ends I can stay feeling as good as I do now. That will certainly perplex the Dr.s if I tell them that I feel good while on gear and bad while not!
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    Still Day 11:

    Though I usually weigh in the morning I was 152 this morning and 155 tonight. I have increased my caloric intake, basically cheating for two days, lol so we will see how i do once I get back down to the gritty. I have increased my protein intake through shakes as well.
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    Day 12: well I have expieremented with a couple things and I think I found the largest factor as to why I was not gaining weight. I have been on the Anarchy stack for awhile now and had been running it the whole time while on this androgen cycle. A day and a half a ago I stopped it and decided to see what would happen. Well this morning I weighed out at 154 up a clear 4 pounds. My weight gain began exactly when I stopped the A stack. Now I have to decide to either adjust it or just stay off for the rest of this cycle.
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    Good to hear Jake. Are you still losing BF? That was the goal, right?
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    I have def. leaned out. I keep trying to get my BF tested but the lady at the gym is never their lately when I am. But yes I can see all my of abs to some degree now, handles are shrinking and my arms are getting more and more vascular. When I am lean I am VERY vascular so its coming. My waist has shrunk about 1/2 inch. I am increasing my cardio each week.
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    Jake, when you get a moment, PM me the details of this Anarchy Stack you speak of..
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    My transtest cycle also made me loss body fat but not gain much weigth. I woulder if a lot the test is converting to DHT.

    Originally posted by windwords7
    I have def. leaned out. I keep trying to get my BF tested but the lady at the gym is never their lately when I am. But yes I can see all my of abs to some degree now, handles are shrinking and my arms are getting more and more vascular. When I am lean I am VERY vascular so its coming. My waist has shrunk about 1/2 inch. I am increasing my cardio each week.
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    Day 13:

    Well I am very excited today. I am up two pounds and down from 15.5 to 11.1% BF. The anarchy stack is def doing its part and the androgens are starting to do thiers.
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    Where would i find info on anarchy stack ww7?
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    Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist
    Where would i find info on anarchy stack ww7?
    KC and Pete, it all inside

    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...&threadid=5553
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    Thanks bro, lots of readin in there!
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    Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist
    Thanks bro, lots of readin in there!
    Yep, all good stuff though!
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    Day 14:

    I weigh the same 152 +/- 2 pounds depending on the day.

    I have upped my dosing to insane levels but still am feeling very little. I am now doing 8ml twice a day (starting last night). We will see how it goes??? As I mentioned on my day 13 post my BF is down a lot so that is great!
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    Angry


    From my experience and yours it looks like 4-AD might be better trans.
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    glad things worked out for u ww7...some of us with legal probs..hehe..have stopped taking the anarchy stack and had to go with just t-1 but oh well..the stacks awesome

    sometimes we need to get knocked down to mae us a better fiighter..glad to see ur better for it
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    sorry
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    I think is was a joke Anarchy=illegal.

    Cost is usually the only reason that people stop taking it.
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    now i feel stupid.....
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    Originally posted by badbart
    From my experience and yours it looks like 4-AD might be better trans.
    Yeah maybe so trans??? I guarentee you when im doing 500mg of cyp a week it will be VERY good!
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    Funny thing is the trans test shut me down so it must have been doing something. I'm going to stick to trans 4-AD or stick myslef next time. I've read on other bords were it worked well. I wounder if the test is disolving in the transdermal solution?

    http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showt...threadid=75687
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    Originally posted by badbart
    Funny thing is the trans test shut me down so it must have been doing something. I'm going to stick to trans 4-AD or stick myslef next time. I've read on other bords were it worked well. I wounder if the test is disolving in the transdermal solution?

    http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showt...threadid=75687
    After reading that thread I am confused as hell. I am not getting anything like those guys are desrcibing. I feel almost Zero. Little strength gains, little weight gains, litte everything. I just dont get it!! I am leaning out though.....
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    Out of curiousity was this a syno conversion?
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    Originally posted by maggmaster
    Out of curiousity was this a syno conversion?
    I dont believe so. Test base from overseas.
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    maybe its fake? Or it has an ester attached but shuouldnt? Im just wondering why this isnt working. Its bugging me
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    I used converted syno and got the same results as WW7. I ran 4-AD for two weeks before the test and almost all my gains were from the 4-AD. Only thing I can think of is maybe the test powder isn't dissolving in the solution enough to pass through the skin. I wasted 5 weeks on this crap, I'm sticking with 4-AD or sticking myself next time.
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    strange maybe we should check the method they use for androgel and see if perhaps it is a flaw in our methods.
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    Last edited by badbart; 06-11-2003 at 10:06 AM.
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    Day 16:

    Just plugging along. I looked in the mirror at the gym today and I am starting to look bigger for sure and people are starting to make comments. So apparently there is more going on than meets the eye or the scale?? I guess the biggest thing for is how much I dont "feel" this cycle but hey, if its working its working.
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    Might be the deca,lol. Hey Jake, just wondering do you think the alcar is having anything to do with you not gaining as quick and it staying mainly lean gains?
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    Originally posted by Matthew D
    Might be the deca,lol. Hey Jake, just wondering do you think the alcar is having anything to do with you not gaining as quick and it staying mainly lean gains?
    Well I stopped for a week and yes I think it is having SOME impact but not completely. I know that DECA is slow acting so that has some role too. But I am also doing at lot of Test and I expected quick results from that. My Dosage is going to stay at 3ml twice a day. I tried 4ml but my word that is SO much liquid there is simply not enough skin to rub that much in and I cant do a midday dose right now.

    My weight is 154 this morning.
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    so wait a minute..r u getting any other effects from the test..i.e increased libido,aggressiveness or more confidence..anything??? obviously no weight gain as ur running letro right?
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    Well your still going to gain weight on letro, just not water weight. I am feeling some effects just not a lot.
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    Originally posted by windwords7
    Well your still going to gain weight on letro, just not water weight. I am feeling some effects just not a lot.
    Same thing with my trans test cycle I felt some effects but not enough to make any real gains, and I seemed to loss fat and gain muscle.
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    sounds like a cutting cycle to me..
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    Originally posted by Matthew D
    sounds like a cutting cycle to me..
    Except its supposed to be a lean mass cycle!!
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    Day 17:

    Well I am def. starting to notice strength gains and the "feeling" of being "on". I am so broke out with pimples it insane. Other than that I am just glad to be feeling on and I am def. looking bigger and getting a lot stares and comments as of late. I have decided to eat a little more carefree but keep my cardio high, 4x a week 35-45 min sessions. I will let you know how things progress.
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    Update?
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    Update:

    On Day 18 my prostate flared. I backed off the androgens completely and began running the norm's and I'm feeling pretty good. I regressed a little but not much. I gained a total of 5 pounds and felt great. Considering my history it was a big step forward for me.
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