2nd cycle advice

  1. 2nd cycle advice


    I will be starting my 2nd cycle in about a month. My first cycle was test enan for 12 weeks. For this cycle I am planning on going with:

    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
    Weeks 1-10 Test enan 625mg per week
    Weeks 9-12 winny 40mg ed

    Weeks 13-16 40-40-20-20
    and maybe add hcg weeks 11 and 12?

    I could do the test enanthate for 10 weeks at 625 a week as stated or go for 12 weeks at 500 a week. I read somewhere about using winny at the end of the cycle to solidify gains, that is why I am including it. All suggestions welcome. Also, best product to keep down the bloat?


  2. im jw, howd ur first cycle go in terms of gains? weight/strength and vascularity?

  3. I gained 24 lbs on my first cycle, I only kept 10, but I think I could have kept more if not for a shoulder injury at the end of the cycle. My bodyfat increased a little, from 10% to 12%. My current stats are 5'8" 164 lbs, 8% bodyfat.
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  4. sounds interesting.. good luck on ur next cycle bro. go hard, but take it easy, you know what im sayin

  5. You can use any AI to decrease bloat on cycle. Letrozole and Anastrozole are the most common. You didn't mention what you plan on doing in weeks 13-16. You only stated some numbers. HCG is usually used while on cycle and not for PCT nowadays. Try it at 250mcg twice/week or 500mcg once/week starting in week 3 to the end of your cycle.

    The cycle looks pretty good other than that I think. You obviously know how you respond to a certain dosage of Test E from your first cycle so I would imagine you're using acceptable dosages this time.

  6. Looks pretty good to me, I would do the hcg from the begining or maybe start at week 3 though at 250ui x 2 wkly up until week 12. thats around what ill be doing for mine after a few suggestions from a few others.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ogonj
    I gained 24 lbs on my first cycle, I only kept 10, but I think I could have kept more if not for a shoulder injury at the end of the cycle. My bodyfat increased a little, from 10% to 12%. My current stats are 5'8" 164 lbs, 8% bodyfat.
    I wouldn't use winny if you had a shoulder injury it weakens your joints. End with anavar for the last 2 weeks, it's pricey but shouldn't be bad if your only using it for 2 weeks. And it's not just winny it's any pure anabolic used before coming off will help to solidify gains and incourage more lean mass retention post-cycle.

    For your post-cycle therapy i would suggested Lean Extreme or Retain to squash cortisol. Throw some proviron into your cycle if you can get it/afford it, 50mg should be good. I'd stick with 10 weeks at 625mg for the test, i'm all for shorter cycles, even if it means higher doses.

    What was your first cycle? Oh and anabolic pump would make an AWESOME addition to this cycle, yes i'm a USP rep so this could come off biased but i'm using it along with a cycle right now and i'm able to cut on 400g's of carbs which is amazing for an endo like me.

  8. yes drop the winny...proviron is a good call as chaps mentioned

  9. Thanks for all the help guys, one more thing, how about clen during pct?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ogonj
    Thanks for all the help guys, one more thing, how about clen during post cycle therapy?
    i would look into lr igf-1 instead...but u could try it during pct and see how you like it
  

  
 

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