3-Alpha Transdermal

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  1. Originally posted by chosen5
    3-beta would obviously yield similiar results to the alpha
    3-Alpha converts to DHT at a rate of about 43% where 3-Beta (otherwise known as 5-AA) converts at about 9%. Thus, 3-Alpha should be considerably more effective.


  2. Originally posted by bow


    3-Alpha converts to DHT at a rate of about 43% where 3-Beta (otherwise known as 5-AA) converts at about 9%. Thus, 3-Alpha should be considerably more effective.
    I meant "similiar" as it [beta] iliciting the same anabolic/androgenic effects as the [alpha], obviously their conversions differ, but beta is still economically more economical
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  3. Everything I read about taking it orally sounds like the sides far outweigh the benefits. Am I correct on this? If so then I would obviously have to transdermal. Now the hard part I don't homebrew.

  4. won't this stuff kill your hairline?

  5. Originally posted by NPursuit
    Everything I read about taking it orally sounds like the sides far outweigh the benefits. Am I correct on this?
    Yes. Transdermal is always going to safer and more effective because it bypasses first pass metabolism. Therefore, it is less toxic and you can take it at lower dosages.

    Note that I am going with 150 mg's a day (starting today) transdermally. The oral recomended dosage is 300 mg's a day. I am assuming (and yes this is a wild hairy ass guess) that the trandermal is going to be at least twice as effective as oral adminstration at raising DHT blood plasma levels. This is how I established the 150 mg/day starting point.


    Originally posted by NPursuit
    If so then I would obviously have to transdermal. Now the hard part I don't homebrew.
    You don't have to. Just buy the t-gel and add the raw powder. Can't get any easier.
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  6. Originally posted by buffjerseyguy
    won't this stuff kill your hairline?

    Yes, it will speed up hair loss if the gene for androgenetic alpecia (male pattern hair loss) is present. However, this is a genetic trait and the gene is passed through the X chromosome. Anotherwords, if you granddad on your moms side is bald, you probably have the gene and 3-Alpha will speed the rate of hair loss. If you donít have the gene, you will most likely keep your ugly rug

  7. This has nothing to do with the subject, but is that a painting or a tattoo on Bow? The colors look way to pastel to be a tattoo.

  8. Originally posted by Jedi Master
    This has nothing to do with the subject, but is that a painting or a tattoo on Bow? The colors look way to pastel to be a tattoo.

    Painting. It is the Burning Man symbol. Very fun party with about 30 thousand people in the middle of the Nevada desert.

  9. I used 300 mgs 3-Alpha (oral) in a 6 week stack with 600 mgs 1,4 andro and 4-AD trans. I was very pleased with the results and suffered no sides at all.

  10. Originally posted by John Benz
    and suffered no sides at all.
    Thats because you're a barbarian!!


  11. Originally posted by bow
    You don't have to. Just buy the t-gel and add the raw powder. Can't get any easier.
    To get the desired 150mg a day, how much 3-alpha did you add into the gel (I'd be using Avant Labs PH gel) and how many squirts a day?

    Thanks


    First post

  12. winwords? what were your gains on the 3-alpha dermal? did you keep your gains?

  13. By that time I had gained almost all the weight that I would gain for that cycle and I kept all but a few pounds of it. 3 Alpha did help me solidfy those gains and get harder I believe.

  14. winwords... wait so you used the dermal or pill form?

  15. I used pill. There was no dermal option unitl recently.

  16. Originally posted by mikereid


    To get the desired 150mg a day, how much 3-alpha did you add into the gel (I'd be using Avant Labs PH gel) and how many squirts a day?

    Thanks


    First post

    What else are you running with your transdermal cycle (mg's/day), what is the volume of the Avant Gel bottle, and what is the volume/squirt.

  17. Originally posted by bow



    What else are you running with your transdermal cycle (mg's/day), what is the volume of the Avant Gel bottle, and what is the volume/squirt.
    I was considering doing oral 1,4-andro or maybe some 4-AD(still in the research/thinking process). The bottle of PH gel is 240ml and the volume/squirt is about 1-1.5 ml.

  18. Well it seems to be getting better now that I stopped using the 3alpha, I'm glad that I'm paranoid, I think I may have just avoided a nasty situation. Thanks for all your help Winwords. I'm just too fukin old for this **** Now I have all this 3alpa ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. Go sell it on the Swap Meet board bro. Some one will buy it.

  20. anyone else have feedback on the 3-alpha dermal im considering adding this to a bottle of super one+ i have for next cycle

  21. Originally posted by mikereid


    I was considering doing oral 1,4-andro or maybe some 4-AD(still in the research/thinking process). The bottle of PH gel is 240ml and the volume/squirt is about 1-1.5 ml.
    Mike you may want to check this out.

    It supports this board and from what I hear it is a better price.

    http://bdcnutrition.com/membershop/p...products_****30

  22. I can squeeze 15gs into a 240ml bottle of t-gel. So how about a mix of
    10gs of 1-Test
    4-gs of 3-alpha

    also I will be taking 300-600mgs of 1,4 DIOL.

    All this on a 4 week cycle.

  23. That's a lot of highly androgenic compound but if you think your body is down for it should be a heck of cycle Pursuit. I would run 3grams a day of Saw P with it.

  24. Yah thanks Winwords I'll do that.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  25. Originally posted by windwords7
    That's a lot of highly androgenic compound but if you think your body is down for it should be a heck of cycle Pursuit. I would run 3grams a day of Saw P with it.
     

    Well another option I have been helped out with from the guys over @ gaining-mass (you may have heard of them =) is to run 1-test, 4-ad, 1,4 diol like the lean mass stack here but add some idex or femara to avoid the bloat and also add some tyramine/yohimbine for the estrogenic fat deposits.

     

    I'm having a hell of a time deciding what to go with on this stack.
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