3-Alpha Transdermal

[NPursuit]

Bow or anyone else, have you found anymore info on running this as a transdermal? My window of opportunity is closing to make a decision, and I think this would be great to combine with some 1-Test, & 1,4 DIOL.

[windwords7]

It's a very effective dermal from all accounts.

[Alpha Dog]

The accounts on dermal 3-alpha are slim.  The raw powder has only been available for a little over a month.  That said, the few testomonials there are have been favorable and it also pencils out on very well on paper as a trandermal (especially when stacked with some type of test or 4-AD).

I am adding it today to my 1-test/TNE cycle.  I'll let you know how it goes.

[windwords7]

Talk to 1fast, he has plenty of info on it.

[chosen5]

I ran 300mg 3-Beta/300mg 1-Test/150mg 4-AD for 20 days and experienced VERY good results. (3-beta would obviously yield similiar results to the alpha)

Drastic increases in strength (VERY drastic) increases in leanness and muscle hardness. All increases were substantial compared to previous cycles of 1-test and 4-ad alone which yielded good size, but not near the strength gains/muscle hardening effects of the 3-beta.

[Alpha Dog]

Originally posted by chosen5
3-beta would obviously yield similiar results to the alpha

3-Alpha converts to DHT at a rate of about 43% where 3-Beta (otherwise known as 5-AA) converts at about 9%. Thus, 3-Alpha should be considerably more effective.

[chosen5]

Originally posted by bow


3-Alpha converts to DHT at a rate of about 43% where 3-Beta (otherwise known as 5-AA) converts at about 9%. Thus, 3-Alpha should be considerably more effective.

I meant "similiar" as it [beta] iliciting the same anabolic/androgenic effects as the [alpha], obviously their conversions differ, but beta is still economically more economical

[NPursuit]

Everything I read about taking it orally sounds like the sides far outweigh the benefits. Am I correct on this? If so then I would obviously have to transdermal. Now the hard part I don't homebrew.

[buffjerseyguy]

won't this stuff kill your hairline?

[Alpha Dog]

Originally posted by NPursuit
Everything I read about taking it orally sounds like the sides far outweigh the benefits. Am I correct on this?

Yes. Transdermal is always going to safer and more effective because it bypasses first pass metabolism. Therefore, it is less toxic and you can take it at lower dosages.

Note that I am going with 150 mg's a day (starting today) transdermally. The oral recomended dosage is 300 mg's a day. I am assuming (and yes this is a wild hairy ass guess) that the trandermal is going to be at least twice as effective as oral adminstration at raising DHT blood plasma levels. This is how I established the 150 mg/day starting point.

Originally posted by NPursuit
If so then I would obviously have to transdermal. Now the hard part I don't homebrew.

You don't have to. Just buy the t-gel and add the raw powder. Can't get any easier.

[Alpha Dog]

Originally posted by buffjerseyguy
won't this stuff kill your hairline?

Yes, it will speed up hair loss if the gene for androgenetic alpecia (male pattern hair loss) is present. However, this is a genetic trait and the gene is passed through the X chromosome. Anotherwords, if you granddad on your moms side is bald, you probably have the gene and 3-Alpha will speed the rate of hair loss. If you don’t have the gene, you will most likely keep your ugly rug

[Jedi Master]

This has nothing to do with the subject, but is that a painting or a tattoo on Bow? The colors look way to pastel to be a tattoo.

[Alpha Dog]

Originally posted by Jedi Master
This has nothing to do with the subject, but is that a painting or a tattoo on Bow? The colors look way to pastel to be a tattoo.

Painting. It is the Burning Man symbol. Very fun party with about 30 thousand people in the middle of the Nevada desert.

[John Benz]

I used 300 mgs 3-Alpha (oral) in a 6 week stack with 600 mgs 1,4 andro and 4-AD trans. I was very pleased with the results and suffered no sides at all.

[Jedi Master]

Originally posted by John Benz
and suffered no sides at all.

Thats because you're a barbarian!!

[mikereid]

Originally posted by bow
You don't have to. Just buy the t-gel and add the raw powder. Can't get any easier.

To get the desired 150mg a day, how much 3-alpha did you add into the gel (I'd be using Avant Labs PH gel) and how many squirts a day?

Thanks


First post

[buffjerseyguy]

winwords? what were your gains on the 3-alpha dermal? did you keep your gains?

[windwords7]

By that time I had gained almost all the weight that I would gain for that cycle and I kept all but a few pounds of it. 3 Alpha did help me solidfy those gains and get harder I believe.

[buffjerseyguy]

winwords... wait so you used the dermal or pill form?

[windwords7]

I used pill. There was no dermal option unitl recently.