I know a lot of this depends on your stack, but I wanted to get an idea of what most people think anyway....
I like the way you thinkOnce my kids are gone and I can afford it ... I am never coming off.
Great mentality :thumbsup:I'ma run mine till it runs out or my lipids go int the sh!tter. How's that for being Mr. Ambiguous? Somewhere in the 16-18 week range maybe?
hah i knew you'd come back to the dark sidehey tom...my next cycle is test/eq for 20 weeks.....
Great mentality :thumbsup:
do many on here do test only cycles much? well with the exception of using an oral for the first 4 weeks. Ive been thinking this summer, if my lifting goes well for the rest of this year and I gain back my lost weight of trying a semi long (16-18) week test e cycle at somewhere between 500-750 (leaning towards 500 since its been a while for me). Also im curious on everyones use of HCG for the longer cycles and the opinions on it.
i'm thinking using enanthate 14-16 weeks for all bulkersabout 20 weeks for test e. the biggest benefit of a long ester is being able to stay on longer. i ran prop for 12 weeks and that was overkill. sooo much scar tissue build up. i would pin and the needle would squeek--and it hurt!
run eq from week 1 until week 14 or more...takes forever to kick in...at least week 5-6 most say...if u havent run test then run it alone the first timeim thinking about runing test enanthate for 12 weeks because of whats available rather than ideal time...in your guys opinion would it be worth throwing in some eq for weeks 2-12 or should i save that up until next cycle when i can get a hand on more
well its good that ur safe...i dont really understand the logic behind running stuff that way but test is the safest....as far as going pro, itll never happen without test + many other steroids IMO8 weeks max if you are not a pro. i noticed many people invest too much on steroids yet doesnt invest on post cycle therapy. my opinion is that post cycle therapy is equally important than being on a cycle too.
the way i do it is 1000mg of testosterone (prop and enanthate) for 2 weeks, 1000mg of test enathate for another 4 weeks, then probably 700mg of test propionate for the last 2 weeks. doing this way i can safely say that when i start my post cycle therapy, my body is partly clear from exogeneous source of test and by layering the hcg, nolva, AI's after ending the cycle seems to be logical. but thats just my opinion.
IMO i think its better to run test enanthate for 1000mg for 7 weeks rather than 14 weeks for just 500mg. since the body can easily detect imbalances for as short as 2 to 3 weeks. on the later, it will do its own defenses just to stay stable (state of homostasis).My first cycle next winter will consist of 14 weeks Test E @500mg/week. I am also thinking of running a dbol kickstart but that has yet to be decided upon. If I can find HCG I will run that from week 7-14.
I think a gram of test/week is a little too much for my first cycle. And as for the HCG, I would only be running in 250iu 2x/week so that should minimize any shutdown of LH from the HCG.IMO i think its better to run test enanthate for 1000mg for 7 weeks rather than 14 weeks for just 500mg. since the body can easily detect imbalances for as short as 2 to 3 weeks. on the later, it will do its own defenses just to stay stable (state of homostasis).
Running Dbol for kickstart is logical but can be very prone to gyno. Anti estro is a must when combining dbol and test.
HCG layered at the cycle?? and for 8 weeks?? i think that is too long. HCG must be utilized 2 weeks after the last test E injection with clomid/tamoxifen therapy.
Using HCG for too long will be hazardous to ur balls.
this is just my opinion but i think you should do a bit more research for the HCG part.
Best of Luck Brothers..
Running HCG on cycle at such a dosage routine is more to prevent testicular shutdown (shrinkage and some natty test production) the HCG will in a sense replace LH signals which are also being suppressed by the impact of the exogenous steroids. This allows for less of an overall system shock Post cycle and should pretty much cause the PCT to be much smoother.I think a gram of test/week is a little too much for my first cycle. And as for the HCG, I would only be running in 250iu 2x/week so that should minimize any shutdown of LH from the HCG.
Can anyone comment on this theroy?IMO i think its better to run test enanthate for 1000mg for 7 weeks rather than 14 weeks for just 500mg. since the body can easily detect imbalances for as short as 2 to 3 weeks. on the later, it will do its own defenses just to stay stable (state of homostasis).
Running Dbol for kickstart is logical but can be very prone to gyno. Anti estro is a must when combining dbol and test.
HCG layered at the cycle?? and for 8 weeks?? i think that is too long. HCG must be utilized 2 weeks after the last test E injection with clomid/tamoxifen therapy.
Using HCG for too long will be hazardous to ur balls.
this is just my opinion but i think you should do a bit more research for the HCG part.
Best of Luck Brothers..