designer steroids and libido
- 12-06-2006, 07:11 PM
- 12-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by khan-unitRecent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html
- 12-07-2006, 05:02 PM
Also,.. Designer anabolics durring PCT (when you are already supressed/shut down) do not count.
I beleive your asking if there is a designer that wouldn't supress you as much as others, making for a quicker PCT...
*You can cut cycles shorter (using the right compounds)
* Sticking to the "purely" anabolic compounds might cause less supression (these would include Phera, Zol,...)
* Using progestin based compounds have a track record of killing your sex drive both on and off cycle.
Nailing your PCT..... priceless
Durring post cycle, you can throw in some DHEA, MACA... Powerfull ,.. not to mention some Avena complex or something to free up test included in your test booster....
All these can eliminate to a great degree the loss of libido durring PCt until your hormones balance.
Use ATD at night, before bed is another option, as opposed durring the day.
...just to throw some things out there
12-07-2006, 05:29 PM
If libido is an issue, DO NOT TAKE KiloSports Trenadrol. Im on the tail end of a 6 week cycle and I recently started getting some libido/testicle issues. Its kind of the nature of the beast. With the help of members of this board, I recently put together a PCT which I should be starting next week. Im running:
12-07-2006, 05:31 PM
Can you clarify this? I found Phera to be quite androgenic (actually got acne, which is unusual, and it made me horny as hell), and from what I've read I'm not the only one.Originally Posted by xtraflossy
12-07-2006, 05:35 PM
There are many designers that will increase libido on-cycle: Pheraplex (for most people), ZOL (for many people), Superdrol (for some people, including me). But any designer that produces good gains will shut you down at least to some degree, which means your libido will suffer during PCT. IMO, the best way to avoid/minimize this is to keep the cycle short. In general, cycles of 2-3 weeks (which are possible with fast-acting compounds like SD and PP) will cause only minimal shutdown with a faster recovery. Cycles of 4 weeks or more will probably cause significant shutdown and thus some loss of libido.Originally Posted by khan-unit
From what I've heard, using toremifene (rather than nolva or clomid) during PCT is supposed to get the testes and libido going much faster.
12-07-2006, 06:34 PM
It is androgenic. If you're prone to hair loss you will shed...acne may get worse...libido should go up (as with any androgen) and you will need a proper post cycle therapy (w/ a SERM) to recover.Originally Posted by TeamSavage
So it is incorrect to say PP is purely anabolic.
12-08-2006, 12:44 PM
I put "purely" in quotes becasue I was attempting to imply "mostly", as in the anabolic side outweighs the androgenic side. :POriginally Posted by TeamSavage
Achne can be attributed to a imbalance in hormones. There is a thread around here about that possibility..
PP was the more anabolic compound in Ergo, extracted becasue it's more anabolic and "clean".
Sure, I got some increase in libedo,.. but not NEARLY as much with more androgenic compounds (SD, ergo- which was awsome!.) I AM NOT SAYING that PP isn't an androgen
Also, added estrogen can make ya horney and break out (clomid?)(not saying that a compound is more androgenic then anabolic per sa) just saying the androgenic aspect of a chem is more likely to shut me down quicker the "heavier" on that side it is.
I MY expirence, suppression took longer for me when using PP, H-50 .. and the like.
The Poster was asking for SOMETHING.
Just as you would suggest a shorter cycle for making an "easier" PCT, I also wanted to suggest that the actual compounds choosen (in addition to cycle length) can make things easier off cycle to a degree.
In addition, as far as libedo goes (which seemed to be of great consern here) progestin based compounds have a history of "calming the bedroom"
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