Oral Finaplex

**Jeff** · 05-21-2003 12:59 PM

I was reading a steroid profile on bodybuilding.com and the article said that fina could be taken orally and that oral potential is greater than if it is made into a transdermal. ?? does this sound right

It also claimed that it would make a good substance for nasal or sublingual delivery. Has anybody made nasal or sublingual homebrews? How does taking a compound nasally differ from transdermal? Given what little I know about the subject (very little :-)) would sublingual delivery of these types of substances be vialble. I had read an article some time back about sublingual absorbtion and I recall that the substance that you want to absorb had to be attached to a sugar or a certain shape.....????? am I smokin something. Just trying to learn this stuff

**Dwight Schrute** · 05-21-2003 01:07 PM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catfinaplix.htm

The rest of the steroid profiles are in a Sticky.

**blinky** · 05-21-2003 02:27 PM

A sublingual version of fina (trenbolone acetate) would burn like crazy. That is one way to verify if you have a good product when converting it to an injectable is by touching it to the tongue. Fina burns when touched to the tongue. From what I have read, an intranasal fina is such a pain when taken that most discontinue the cycle after about 3 days or so. The best option would be to convert it to an injectable although one can achieve excellent bioavailability through a transdermal delivery when the ester (acetate) is removed. The injectable method yields nearly 100% bioavailability while the transdermal method can yield from 30-50% bioavailability depending on the carrier medium. Hope this answered some of your questions. PM me if you have any more.

AlexParty · 05-21-2003 06:45 PM

Woooaa, try and AVOID NASAL, I don't even have to research to tell you this. That's gonna be harsh on your nasal canal and you don't want to **** it up because if you do, even irratating it will cause problems, you'll have to get surgery. Take it from me, I'd trans over nasal any day. Oh and if your taking it orally, are you asking which is better, oral or trans??????

**Jeff** · 05-21-2003 08:27 PM

Yep, the article was saying that using finaplex orally was better than transdermal. Unless my dyslexia is kicking in again.

sorry, I should have been more specific with my question, the nasal and sublingual preperation were more for Ph than for fina, my bad. I think I found some answers to that on the 1fast400 site. Thanks for the response

**Dwight Schrute** · 05-21-2003 08:48 PM

Thats recommendation was made with old transdermal formula's in mind (15-20%). With the formulations now and removing the ester you can get 30-40% absortion.

There is an article over at mindandmuscle.net about making a trenbolone nasal spray if you interested. Mike might have that posted on his site as well.

**Rhapsody** · 05-21-2003 08:51 PM

I have a buddy that (in the past) has used Fina under his tongue......he said it burned like hell......almost unbearable.

He switched over to injectable after that so I can't say what his results were from oral.

**Dwight Schrute** · 05-21-2003 09:04 PM

Sunblingual is the worst method. Lipophillic substances do not absord well at all through mucous membranes and with the added ester its even more lipophillic.

Oral and sublingual are two different methods.

**Rhapsody** · 05-21-2003 09:07 PM

your right...Bobo....

and my friend did his sublingual........not oral. Thanks.

**Dwight Schrute** · 05-21-2003 09:09 PM

I seem to be following your posts around....

Sorry bout that...

**Rhapsody** · 05-21-2003 09:14 PM

Have you ever felt like your being watched??

I started looking behind me !! lol

Thanks for all the information you give......I like the detail

AlexParty · 05-21-2003 09:18 PM

Could doing it by nasal possibly cause a Deviated septum?? I think that only occurs if you get punhced, bump your nose hard or if it gets dislocated????

**Dwight Schrute** · 05-21-2003 09:30 PM

No, it won't.

**Champ** · 05-22-2003 01:36 AM

If you do decide to do sublingual fina. You may wanna use the cyclo method. You can buy the cyclo powder from mike a 1fast400.
I'm going to be making some pretty soon.

**Matthew D** · 05-22-2003 05:27 AM

Champster, Are you saying that Mike sales cycle Fina powder? If so that is news to me.

**windwords7** · 05-22-2003 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Matthew D
Champster, Are you saying that Mike sales cycle Fina powder? If so that is news to me.

I believe he is saying that Mike sells the cyclo powder in bulk and that he is going to mix it with Fina.

**Champ** · 05-22-2003 12:05 PM

Exactly!

I have no inhibitions about injections. I get my own crib in August since I just moved to Denver.

For now I'm going to give this method a try.

**bellx1** · 05-22-2003 05:24 PM

I dont remember where I found it but somewhere I have the recipe on how to make fina nasal spray if anyone wants it ......

I cant imagine doing it either... but some people just refuse to inject .

**Matthew D** · 05-22-2003 05:38 PM

I was hoping that was the case Wind

**Champ** · 05-22-2003 07:27 PM

For those who may be doubting or question the effectiveness of different absorption rates. I found this some time ago on the site posted below.

The following chart compares absorption rates of delivery systems:

Delivery System Rate of Absorption*(5)

Pill or tablet 10%

Capsule 20%

Gel Cap 30%

Transdermal Patch 45%

Sublingual Liquid 50%

Intramuscular Injection 90%

Intraoral or Sublingual Spray 95%

Intravenous Injection 100%

http://www.focusnewsletter.org/absorpti.htm

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