New Years cycle ideas...it's never too early to start planning

[PumpingIron]

As long as everything works out the way its supposed to, and I get back into the gym for a while and train right, I'm trying to put together 2 cycles for the beginning of next year, One in January and then another one in May (which will be TRN/TST/ZOL...iffy on the TST cuz of the acne but I hate libido loss, but that's a different story for a different day)

But for now I just wanted to get some opinions. I've never ran ProMagnon and I have a bottle sitting in my freezer, so I was thinking about just trying it out for 4 weeks. It's not quite as tried and true as things like SD and PP and H50 but I am curious to see what it is like.

The debate on whether or not it was H50 or not I think will always go on so please don't bogart my thread with it? Thanks...

I just wish I could find more logs of ProMag...

Well I'm proposing this...

Week 1: 50mgs ED
Week 2: 50mgs ED
Week 3: 50mgs ED
Week 4: 50mgs ED (75mgs for the last 4 days)

run cycle support...

pct:
Nolva 60/ATD 25/Retain 3/PF 6~8 caps
Nolva 40/ATD 50/Retain 3/PF 6~8 caps
Nolva 20/ATD 50/Retain 3/PF 6~8 caps
Nolva 20/ATD 75/Retain 3/PF 6~8 caps

my goals for this cycle will be to throw on as much weight as possible (minimize the fat as much as I can, but I do not want to hinder any gains)...add as much strength as possible...

So I'm planning on a 4500 Kcal diet (40P/40C/20F)...

Training 4 days a week (MTuThF)...

Right now I'm 190 @ 6'0"...my guess would be 12~13% (I'm being generous)

Hopefully by the time i begin in 2007 I'll be about 195.

Well thats that idea, if I decide on this cycle I'm going to start a log since there are no ProMagnon logs out there, really. Plus it actually helped me focus better on a previous cycle (my Phera Log).

So let me know what you think. Should I run SD or PP instead, should I stack some combo? I mean I have a ridiculous stash at the moment...PM, H50 (clone), PP (clone and orig), SD (clone, knock off and orig), Zol, TRN, TST...and I think that's it.....

Well hit me up with ideas...

[pistonpump]

i thought promag was the same as h-50, just different dose capsules?......

[Mass_69]

i thought promag was the same as h-50, just different dose capsules?......

Not quite. H-50 was a di-ene, at the 1 and 4 positions. Promag just had one -ene (at the 4 position).


Halodrol - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17-diol

Target Hormone: Oral Turinabol - 4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one


Pro-Magnon 25 - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-diol

Target Hormone: "methylclostebol" - 4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3-one

[PumpingIron]

See guys, this is exactly what I was talking about...

Lets just say that it's very close to the same but not quite, according to the chem name.

[TeamSavage]

If you're trying to throw on as much weight as possible, maybe you could stack the ProMag with moderate dose of X-Mass, a Max LMG clone. It's non-methylated and reportedly gives very nice mass gains on its own.

[pistonpump]

The reviews of promag from what i remember are the same type of effects as h-50 with less sides but dont quote me on that.