ATD Postive Drug Tests and 6-OXO
11-01-2006 09:41 AM
ATD Postive Drug Tests and 6-OXO
I have read where ATD causes a postive drug test for Boldenone because it has metabolites that are the same as the boldenone metabolites that they test for. I am going into my first natural contest and that would suck to get busted for taking a "natural" supplement. For this reason I am avoiding ATD but would like to run an Anti-E to dry me out. Does anyone know the metabolites of 6-OXO and 6-bromo (Rebound Reloaded)? I obviously wouldn't choose Jungle Warfare because one of its compounds in a metbaolite of ATD.
Dr. D and others? Any insight here?
Thanks - MH
11-01-2006 10:11 AM
As far as I know, I don't think these show up on drug tests? I'm not sure though so I'll let someone who does answer your question, but my guess would be no.
Here's some logic. Eating bagels with poppy seeds was thought to prove positive drug tests. Turns out you have to eat an unreal number bagels/poppy seeds to come out positive.
I'd figure it'd be the same with these compounds.
11-01-2006 10:44 AM
I found this press release about ATD.....this is why I was curious about 6-OXO and 6-bromo. Would they also cause a false positive?
"The OCB/IFPA underwent an experiment to see if the over the counter supplement known as ATD would cause a subject to fail a urinalysis. ATD is marketed as a “naturally occurring testosterone booster” and acts as an anti-estrogen. ATD is an aromatase inhibitor, in other words, it binds to and inhibits the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen.
The subject submitted a sample that was clear of any banned substances. After taking ATD for 2 weeks, the subject resubmitted a urine sample. This time, the sample came back positive for metabolites of the anabolic steroid boldenone (1,4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-ol). (The metabolites were 5beta-androst-1-en-17beta-ol-3-one and 5beta-androst-1-en-3beta-ol-17-one)
It is believed that ATD shares similar metabolites as 1,4-androstadienedione, a prohormone of boldenone. ATD products may also contain contaminants containing this prohormone, which would result in the positive test for boldenone.
ATD’s chemical name is 1,4,6-Androstatrien-3,17-dione (ADT), but natural athletes need to be very vigilant in selecting their supplements. ATD is often referred to using deceptive names such as 3,17-keto-etiochol-triene or 3,17-dioxoetioallocholan-1,4,6-triene, for example. ATD is found in many over the counter supplements including, but not limited to Rebound XT (Designer Supplements), Novedex XT (Gaspari Nutrition), Inhibit-E (SNS), and Attitude (SAN)"
11-01-2006 11:50 AM
interesting. just use arimidex...but not formestane (can test positive for hydroxytest as it converts right to it)
not sure about aromasin....or 6OXO, but it's is related to ATD so i might avoid that.
11-01-2006 11:56 AM
Arimidex is banned. I want to stay legal. 6-bromo and 6-OXO are legal. Thanks.
11-02-2006 06:46 AM
I help the OCB with their banned substances list. I do not know the answer to this question. Just be sure you do before you choose to use anything as a positive result is a positive result.
01-24-2008 12:43 PM
01-24-2008 12:51 PM
You also need to beware of Testostrone to Estrogen ratio if 4:1 is disqualification. 6:1 is hard to get using most AIs, but 4:1 is possible.
01-24-2008 02:35 PM
I don't know what kind of testing is used for OCB/IFPA, but some of you may recall that radioimmunoassay (RIA) testing on ATD can result in false-positives for testosterone:
01-31-2008 01:42 PM
Knowing this, anyone know the clearance/detection time for ATD? Searched around but nothin. Appreciate it, thanks!
01-31-2008 01:55 PM
Isn't the T:E ration they use actually Testosterone:Epitestosterone, not Test:Estrogen. I don't think an AI would mess with that.
Originally Posted by Werewolf
01-31-2008 10:31 PM
Being on NHA stack, just wanna bump the question of clearance time/detection for ATD, would really appreciate it, thanks!
08-13-2009 12:41 PM
Bump, does anybody know the answer to this, thank you.
Originally Posted by Needle****
08-14-2009 05:41 AM
ATD can be shown as D-bol I heard.
08-18-2009 04:42 PM
What's the detection time on this? I would assume that since ATD is oral it practically has no detectable metabolites after a few days. I'm no expert though.
Originally Posted by Suryoyo
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