What in your experience seems to be the best jumpstart for an bulk/strength test based cycle?
I think dbol is the overall best.
Anadrol - Amazing gains, but hard to eat. No eating means no muscle.
M1T - Haven't and won't try it
SD - bad back pumps, lethargy was brutal, gains were on level with dbol, but I just didnt feel as good.
PP - I got nothing from it
tbol - good lean muscle gains, but didn't get much strength
var - good strength and vascularity, but killed appetite
thanks alot for the response to each oral listed, aspire210!
Superdrol, though I have no basis for comparison.
I know i wish i could find some of the old 4ad it was great to battle the sides of M1t.Originally Posted by daniel35
Yeah the others didnt seem like real bulking orals but i just put them there just incase i guess. was going to go with dbol but sdrol and m1t are on my mind cuz i dont got the dbol yet and i wanna start! thanks for the responses, keep um coming.
Right now I'm using 20mg of PP and some liquid Mag 10 (old prohormone)
if i was going to run oral gear which i wouldn't i would run dbol at 25mg and drol at 50mg for 6 weeks
with that said prop is much better imo for myriad reasons .. more quality gains, less stress on your body, etc.
Originally Posted by glenihan
Ive yet to run a bombs or dbol but i agree with glen here, probly keeps ur appetite in check yet still yields a quality jumpstart.
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drol is the obvious choice, as it will impart more strength than the rest of those compounds, for most of us...and probably more weight too.
i wonder if i am the only person on the board who has used every single one of the compounds listed? i also wonder if that means i am officially a steroid addict...
There you have it folks!Originally Posted by same_old
Judging off what I've read/seen, Drol seems to be the best for mass/strength and dbol would probably come in 2nd. I had a buddy get on anadrol and he got ridiculously huge but was holding a lot of water. I had another buddy gain about 30 pounds on his cycle that started with dbol.
Yeah I could only muster 4 of the 7 -- it's kind of hard to judge if you haven't tried 'em all.Originally Posted by same_old
"Superdrol" always seems to win a lot of the polls around here, whatever the question, methinks because that is the one thing so many people have tried.
Anyway, IME var makes one freakishly strong. Especially because it doesn't do much in the hypertrophy department, it can be disconcerting to see the poundages flying up without the lifter looking much bigger.
Lets not turn this into another drol vs dbol debate. I think everyone should try both, drol wasn't my cup of tea personally. I got amazing gains, as I said above, but I felt like warmed over, bloated ****. For a first time user though, I would always recommend dbol over drol. Glen posted a good article on the synergy of the two, since they work via different pathways. Maybe thats the real way to go.
well, he asked for bulk and strength. most will agree that drol > dbol for strength. if sides are to be considered, well that's a whole different poll (i vote tbol for that one)Originally Posted by aspire210
Touché. Drol was a little better for strength for me, of course then you have the old arguement that I was running twice as much. But if we do that then, M1t would win, hands down. However, throwing out side effects, drol did have the best gains. Not the most quality, but the best.Originally Posted by same_old
I tried them all except Phera. So you and I are kinfolk. yarrrrrOriginally Posted by same_old
I agree with Drol, but like Glen said, I would run Drol+dbol together.. if i was to run them again.. that is.
Dbol- winter bulk
Superdrol- lean mass or cutting (back cramps suck especially at 40-50mg haha but are worth it in the end)
Anadrol- heard there is way too much bloat and sides so I don't care to try it or else I would use it instead of Dbol
Just curious but wouldn't the combo of Dbol and SD be a bit high on the liver toxicity side?
im not 100% sure but i think when they are talking about drol dbol combo they are referring to anadrol not superdrol.
Yeah, Anadrol=Drol. Superdrol shouldn't lift that name from the OG.
Piston was right, Glen and I were referring to Anadrol and Dianabol stacked.
ubi you have great abs or is that growth hormone gut lol....jp.
I went with the superdrol jumpstart. so far a week in and not the mass that i was looking for. i think a drol and dbol are the best for jumpstart to mass. to bad my dbol got snagged. I wish orals didnt have to be harsh