What in your experience seems to be the best jumpstart for an bulk/strength test based cycle?
I know i wish i could find some of the old 4ad it was great to battle the sides of M1t.M1t hands down, but I wouldn't touch it again. d-bol and a bombs are second and third with superdrol bringing up the rear I really don't consider the others good for a bulk. Have experience with all of them. But don't let superdrol's legality fool you, it is almost as dangerous as m1t with different sides. 4ad was awesome in its day if you got over 1 gram per day orally spaced out evenly.
if i was going to run oral gear which i wouldn't i would run dbol at 25mg and drol at 50mg for 6 weeks
with that said prop is much better imo for myriad reasons .. more quality gains, less stress on your body, etc.
There you have it folks!drol is the obvious choice, as it will impart more strength than the rest of those compounds, for most of us...and probably more weight too.
i wonder if i am the only person on the board who has used every single one of the compounds listed? i also wonder if that means i am officially a steroid addict...
Yeah I could only muster 4 of the 7 -- it's kind of hard to judge if you haven't tried 'em all.drol is the obvious choice, as it will impart more strength than the rest of those compounds, for most of us...and probably more weight too.
i wonder if i am the only person on the board who has used every single one of the compounds listed? i also wonder if that means i am officially a steroid addict...
well, he asked for bulk and strength. most will agree that drol > dbol for strength. if sides are to be considered, well that's a whole different poll (i vote tbol for that one)Lets not turn this into another drol vs dbol debate. I think everyone should try both, drol wasn't my cup of tea personally. I got amazing gains, as I said above, but I felt like warmed over, bloated ****. For a first time user though, I would always recommend dbol over drol. Glen posted a good article on the synergy of the two, since they work via different pathways. Maybe thats the real way to go.
Touché. Drol was a little better for strength for me, of course then you have the old arguement that I was running twice as much. But if we do that then, M1t would win, hands down. However, throwing out side effects, drol did have the best gains. Not the most quality, but the best.well, he asked for bulk and strength. most will agree that drol > dbol for strength. if sides are to be considered, well that's a whole different poll (i vote tbol for that one)
I tried them all except Phera. So you and I are kinfolk. yarrrrri wonder if i am the only person on the board who has used every single one of the compounds listed? i also wonder if that means i am officially a steroid addict...
ubi you have great abs or is that growth hormone gut lol....jp.
absolutely true but my problem with drol is that you can get about 80% of the effect with 25 to 33% of the dosage and less then half the sides with Dbol. That just makes it too hard to justify using at least for me. I haven't tried everthing on that list but once was enough for the drol. That is why I didn't pick it even though the question didn't spec sides (I actually missed that part)well, he asked for bulk and strength. most will agree that drol > dbol for strength. if sides are to be considered, well that's a whole different poll (i vote tbol for that one)
what length/dosage? I really wanna see what i can do with that and tren but MPB prone....so I dont knowAfter seeing the insane strength gains my buddies got off of Anadrol i'd go with that, i haven't used it personally but i was drooling at the strength gains alone.
so youre saying test prop? its a faster acting test right? would one use prop for how long, the first 3-4 weeks and then run test e or test c for the remainder of the cycle??if i was going to run oral gear which i wouldn't i would run dbol at 25mg and drol at 50mg for 6 weeks
with that said prop is much better imo for myriad reasons .. more quality gains, less stress on your body, etc.
I believe they were doing 100mg for 6 weeks, but ya i remember looking over and seeing one of my buddies barbell rowing 450lbs and i'm like jesus i wish i was bulking again!what length/dosage? I really wanna see what i can do with that and tren but MPB prone....so I dont know
mmmmmmmm......Anadrol + Tren + Test Prop= strength gains like crazy.:clean:what length/dosage? I really wanna see what i can do with that and tren but MPB prone....so I dont know
i'd love to be able to do thatmmmmmmmm......Anadrol + Tren + Test Prop= strength gains like crazy.:clean:
that gotta be insanemmmmmmmm......Anadrol + Tren + Test Prop= strength gains like crazy.:clean:
Good possibility of gyno there. I foresee a lot of ancillaries with that cycle. I also foresee an extra 100lbs on my bench and raisins for nuts. I will try anadrol and test prop for a month or so next, then maybe give that craziness a shot. Did you actually try it yet? If so how were the sides and gains?mmmmmmmm......Anadrol + Tren + Test Prop= strength gains like crazy.:clean:
i know you've only done one cycle of test...steer clear from tren and anadrol for a whileaspire, u gonna keep a log?? im interested in that stak
DBol is generally better for maintainable gains for me. Anadrol bloats like hell and kills my appetite, but makes one hella strong.Undecided as to which...
TP/TrenA/DBol or TP/TrenA/AnaD??
i am leaning slightly to the latter.
I don't know when I'll get around to that one to be honest. I don't want to anadrol so close to the summer really, yes I'm that narcissistic. I probably won't get to that one until the fall. I've never kept a log before, but I guess it could be fun.aspire, u gonna keep a log?? im interested in that stak
I don't know when I'll get around to that one to be honest. I don't want to anadrol so close to the summer really, yes I'm that narcissistic. I probably won't get to that one until the fall. I've never kept a log before, but I guess it could be fun.
slightly, maybe, but it will still be easier to gain fat than normal and I don't see tren's fat burning abilities saving you on that one. I do see it being a miserable cycle, aside from the gains. Just keep that in mind going in. Also, I would definitely run an AI/nolva and caber, thats three really bad and different ways to get gyno in one cycle. If you do it before winter/fall, let me know how it is, since i plan to try it when almost no one will see me with my shirt off.Wouldn't trens effects offset the effects of anadrol slightly?
That's kinda what I am counting on atleast...for staying lean and maintaining mass after the quick gains from a-50.
Something like this...
Tprop 1-8
TAce 1-7
A-50 1-4
Thoughts?
youre not liking the anadrol?Just finishing my jumpstart of anadrol... I think next time I'll try dbol, from what I've read it seems to be the better all-around choice, mg for mg dbol is stronger anyway.
I am liking it. I have just heard better things about dbol. I figure i'll have to try both to really are which one I like more. I was taking 50 mgs per day.youre not liking the anadrol?
the pricing for the two are the same pretty much, but i guess the more mgs the more stress on liver. How much are you taking again?
how are your strength gains on the anadrol?? how rapid? and how rapid is weight gain? how bad is bloat? I am not really concerned about bloat just curious...I am liking it. I have just heard better things about dbol. I figure i'll have to try both to really are which one I like more. I was taking 50 mgs per day.
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