Today, tusday the 17th, i got tested fordrugs and a full panel steroid test. My last dose of phera max was thursday and my last day of superdrol was Saturday. I also took Nolva on sunday and monday. I really need to know if they are going to be able to test for it...IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!Pleae help me out with some info.

Originally Posted by Barbell500

Today, tusday the 17th, i got tested fordrugs and a full panel steroid test. My last dose of phera max was thursday and my last day of superdrol was Saturday. I also took Nolva on sunday and monday. I really need to know if they are going to be able to test for it...IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!Pleae help me out with some info.

To the best of my knowledge there is no test yet for DMT which Pheramax consists of, as for Methasteron or SD , I am not sure.

Originally Posted by ripped218

To the best of my knowledge there is no test yet for DMT which Pheramax consists of, as for Methasteron or superdrol , I am not sure.

Thank you very much for answering. Do you know where I coudl find additional info? do u think i can reach DR. D somehow? this is very important

Originally Posted by Barbell500

Thank you very much for answering. Do you know where I coudl find additional info? do u think i can reach DR. D somehow? this is very important

I haven't seen DR.D on here for a while,maybe LMD or Jayyhawkk can chime in,they probably would know more about this then me.

Originally Posted by ripped218

I haven't seen DR.D on here for a while,maybe LMD or Jayyhawkk can chime in,they probably would know more about this then me.

Thanks for your help....hopefully someone has any additional info. I will greatly appreciate

Not that is matters so much now, but did you know of the drug test?

And is this for a job, sport, or other?


I would be more concerned about SD rather than Phera, thats what my gut feeling is telling me.

what kind of organization was is testing you? sports? military? job?

i have heard more than once that pheraplex will show up as methyltest on a steroid test. with all the phera's out there these days, i dont know if the particular one you used will show up, and it might have cleared your system.

in any case, if this is a steroid test from a job, phera max and superdrol are legal. they are not scheduled substances, so therefore you didnt do anything illegal.

the NCAA and military have added ph/ps to their ban lists, its really a matter of it they have added the particular substances you have been using. if they havent, you have a leg to stand on, just hold onto the bottles for proof.

Pheramax and superdrol are not illegal, period. Youre only in trouble if they are on your organizations ban list.

there is a test for dmt. there was a track athlete cought in 2003 for using it.

you can PM dr. d i just spoke with him the other day .. i don't know if he knows about this though

He's not Gold, so he can't PM him...guess I could though...

Edit: I sent Dr.D a PM for you. Good luck bro.

Originally Posted by Rage (SoCal)

Not that is matters so much now, but did you know of the drug test?

And is this for a job, sport, or other?


I would be more concerned about superdrol rather than Phera, thats what my gut feeling is telling me.

It is for a job...someone fom work told me that they do 70 dollar steroid tests....i ahve no idea what that means...


In case there are tests for Superdrol and Phera Max, how long do i have to be of in order for them to become untraceable?

Originally Posted by jomi822

what kind of organization was is testing you? sports? military? job?

i have heard more than once that pheraplex will show up as methyltest on a steroid test. with all the phera's out there these days, i dont know if the particular one you used will show up, and it might have cleared your system.

in any case, if this is a steroid test from a job, phera max and superdrol are legal. they are not scheduled substances, so therefore you didnt do anything illegal.

the NCAA and military have added ph/ps to their ban lists, its really a matter of it they have added the particular substances you have been using. if they havent, you have a leg to stand on, just hold onto the bottles for proof.

Pheramax and superdrol are not illegal, period. Youre only in trouble if they are on your organizations ban list.

its not military or sports, i want to be hired as a teacher so they hauled me down to the local hospital and made me take a piss test.

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

there is a test for dmt. there was a track athlete cought in 2003 for using it.

So phera max by generic labz is dmt? HOw long does it take to become untraceable?

Originally Posted by stxnas

He's not Gold, so he can't PM him...guess I could though...

Edit: I sent Dr.D a PM for you. Good luck bro.

Thanks man

Originally Posted by Barbell500

Thanks man

You're welcome.

they are testing you for gear for a normal job!?? seriously? .. unless you're a cop or a firefighter i've NEVER heard of that

i dont see superdrol or phera max being a problem in that case. you must be a pretty good sized guy for them to feel they need to test you for gear. i doubt they test every joe who walks in for a job.

If they do a T/E test, that is going to come back positive more than likely... unless of course, well, you had someone else piss in your cup.

youre fine. even if you do test postive, you didnt use any illegal substances. just show them the bottles. if you dont get hired, sue.

suing would be completely worthless and no attorney would take such a frivolous case .. unless they don't hire you based on age, race, religion, or family status you have no claim whatsoever

Originally Posted by Barbell500

It is for a job...someone fom work told me that they do 70 dollar steroid tests....i ahve no idea what that means...

In case there are tests for Superdrol and Phera Max, how long do i have to be of in order for them to become untraceable?

someone from work who knew enough about you to cause you trouble is either pulling your leg or is out to get you -- hoping maybe you'll crack and confess or something. what you probably need to do is not talk to people (and especially this person) about your personal life, training, etc..

i don't know what it is you do exactly, but i have worked in national security positions and still do work in financial markets, where drug tests are common, and they do NOT test for steroids -- only coke, pot, meth, heroin, & etc.. although if you work for a three letter organization, they will certainly ask you about your current and past drug use, and possibly do some basic verification with people you've known over the years.

also there's no way you can get a steroid test for $70, you'll pay way more than that to get a common test for testosterone levels at a quest diagnostics.

is there more to this story? have you given your employer or any of your enemies reasons to suspect that you are on steroids? in that case, it's conceivable you were narced out and now they are making a special project out of you. still it is a considerable expense and legal/HR risk to undertake any kind of off-policy investigation of an employee, so i sincerely doubt this is the case.

that said, if you do fail, simply ask to re-take the test. false positives happen all the time and you'll certainly pass the 2nd test, what with these short-lived compounds. actually scratch that, if you do fail, seek out the advice of a lawyer first, but seriously, the likelihood of any action being taken is pretty low. does your employee manual even say you can't be on steroids? i doubt it. in either case, these are legal compounds.

Yeah, for 70$, the best they could test for would be test itself or maybe a test/epitest ratio. It sounds like a bogus scenario just like Blackheart suggested.

There is still no test for SD that I have heard of and no USP std to test with if there was. I know that PP (DMT) is testable, plus it can generate metabolites that are detectable too, but it may have been long enough to not show up. This is the best way to pass a drug test:



Do a 3-4 day modified fast (1000-2000 cals/d), very low carb and high protein. This gets recent fat stores mobilized to rid the body of current lipophilic drugs (THC, steroid esters, etc..) followed by a serious 48hrs carb load leading up to test. The carb up ensures you are burning glucose and storing fat at the time of the test and not excreting it, so a calorie surplus is required. Also, you do not want to drink too many fluids if you didn't fast because this can actually concentrate lipophilics in the urine, not dilute them! Diuretics can only dilute water soluble drugs or lipophilics that can form water soluble salt (stims like amphetamine or ephedrine). If you have used a a stim recently, you can acidify your urine with ammonium chloride, aspirin or vitamin C for a day or two kinda like the lipophilic protocol, then make sure your urine is basic when you take the test. A teaspoon of baking soda is a cheap way to do this and works well. This makes the stim clear out fast by forced acid diuresis before the test and hold on to any stims still left in your system during the test period so they are temporarily not excreted, just in case some were still in your system. Otherwise high water intake is good if you fasted properly and don't forget to take creatine. The monohydrate works at about 1g/50lbs of body weight. More than that will show an abnormal result and automatically get further testing or dismissed completely as a positive sample, but if your urine is too diluted, it will fail for low creatinine values and test bad too, so you need a little creatine for sure. Plus, take a B-complex to make sure your urine looks yellow. This will make it look concentrated and dilution will not be suspected, even if electrolyte values are low. If the urine is too light, it will fail visual inspection automatically before it can even be tested.

I've passed dozens of urine tests over the years, even doing stuff to the very night before in several cases (that was stupid though and I don't recommend it) plus I worked in a lab for about 2.5 years were I could test myself constantly so I gathered a good bit of data from personal experiments. However, if you're on Deca or Laurabolin, you better say your prayers too, because the metabolites are detectable at very low levels and can persist for over a year. In that case, the fast is the best shot you have, or a masking agent. Orals usually clear fast though (a week or two).

Originally Posted by DR.D

Yeah, for 70$, the best they could test for would be test itself or maybe a test/epitest ratio. It sounds like a bogus scenario just like Blackheart suggested.

There is still no test for superdrol that I have heard of and no USP std to test with if there was. I know that PP (DMT) is testable, plus it can generate metabolites that are detectable too, but it may have been long enough to not show up. This is the best way to pass a drug test:



Do a 3-4 day modified fast (1000-2000 cals/d), very low carb and high protein. This gets recent fat stores mobilized to rid the body of current lipophilic drugs (THC, steroid esters, etc..) followed by a serious 48hrs carb load leading up to test. The carb up ensures you are burning glucose and storing fat at the time of the test and not excreting it, so a calorie surplus is required. Also, you do not want to drink too many fluids if you didn't fast because this can actually concentrate lipophilics in the urine, not dilute them! Diuretics can only dilute water soluble drugs or lipophilics that can form water soluble salt (stims like amphetamine or ephedrine). If you have used a a stim recently, you can acidify your urine with ammonium chloride, aspirin or vitamin C for a day or two kinda like the lipophilic protocol, then make sure your urine is basic when you take the test. A teaspoon of baking soda is a cheap way to do this and works well. This makes the stim clear out fast by forced acid diuresis before the test and hold on to any stims still left in your system during the test period so they are temporarily not excreted, just in case some were still in your system. Otherwise high water intake is good if you fasted properly and don't forget to take creatine. The monohydrate works at about 1g/50lbs of body weight. More than that will show an abnormal result and automatically get further testing or dismissed completely as a positive sample, but if your urine is too diluted, it will fail for low creatinine values and test bad too, so you need a little creatine for sure. Plus, take a B-complex to make sure your urine looks yellow. This will make it look concentrated and dilution will not be suspected, even if electrolyte values are low. If the urine is too light, it will fail visual inspection automatically before it can even be tested.

I've passed dozens of urine tests over the years, even doing stuff to the very night before in several cases (that was stupid though and I don't recommend it) plus I worked in a lab for about 2.5 years were I could test myself constantly so I gathered a good bit of data from personal experiments. However, if you're on Deca or Laurabolin, you better say your prayers too, because the metabolites are detectable at very low levels and can persist for over a year. In that case, the fast is the best shot you have, or a masking agent. Orals usually clear fast though (a week or two).

Damn good post. I'm going to have to save this for later use or reference. Thank you.

Originally Posted by ripped218

I haven't seen DR.D on here for a while,maybe LMD or Jayyhawkk can chime in,they probably would know more about this then me.

I'm sorry guys. I've been really busy the last few months, plus my wife has been threatening to "smash the computer and hide the modem" if I don't get off the boards more so I haven't been around as much. You know I don't need no woman, but I need my computer! (j/k)

Just PM me and I'll get the message in my box. If I can help, I'll always take the time to respond.

as usuall Dr. D in the house to save the day!! Damn good post DR. D

dude I pay $150 a mth to test for probation. I think after 3 days your good to go. I'v been testing for a year and a half. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by DR.D

I'm sorry guys. I've been really busy the last few months, plus my wife has been threatening to "smash the computer and hide the modem" if I don't get off the boards more so I haven't been around as much. You know I don't need no woman, but I need my computer! (j/k)

Just PM me and I'll get the message in my box. If I can help, I'll always take the time to respond.

:bruce1:

Originally Posted by glenihan

they are testing you for gear for a normal job!?? seriously? .. unless you're a cop or a firefighter i've NEVER heard of that

I cant tell u where this school is for obvious reasons, but yeah, its pretty crazy..

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

i dont see superdrol or phera max being a problem in that case. you must be a pretty good sized guy for them to feel they need to test you for gear. i doubt they test every joe who walks in for a job.

Yeah, it is random...i am not too impressive, but i am not small

Originally Posted by blackheart

someone from work who knew enough about you to cause you trouble is either pulling your leg or is out to get you -- hoping maybe you'll crack and confess or something. what you probably need to do is not talk to people (and especially this person) about your personal life, training, etc..

i don't know what it is you do exactly, but i have worked in national security positions and still do work in financial markets, where drug tests are common, and they do NOT test for steroids -- only coke, pot, meth, heroin, & etc.. although if you work for a three letter organization, they will certainly ask you about your current and past drug use, and possibly do some basic verification with people you've known over the years.

also there's no way you can get a steroid test for $70, you'll pay way more than that to get a common test for testosterone levels at a quest diagnostics.

is there more to this story? have you given your employer or any of your enemies reasons to suspect that you are on steroids? in that case, it's conceivable you were narced out and now they are making a special project out of you. still it is a considerable expense and legal/HR risk to undertake any kind of off-policy investigation of an employee, so i sincerely doubt this is the case.

that said, if you do fail, simply ask to re-take the test. false positives happen all the time and you'll certainly pass the 2nd test, what with these short-lived compounds. actually scratch that, if you do fail, seek out the advice of a lawyer first, but seriously, the likelihood of any action being taken is pretty low. does your employee manual even say you can't be on steroids? i doubt it. in either case, these are legal compounds.

I am just as surprised as u...i will take ur advice and ask for a retake if i test positively.