PP & 1-AD - Running simultaneously?

[PhoebeusFenix]

Hey everybody, I will be starting my 2nd cycle shortly(read: 5 days)

My first cycle consisted of just Phera-drol, going from 1 tab for 1 week, 2 tabs for 2 weeks, then 3 for the last week.

Will be starting a new cycle shortly and have a quick question... I have about 3 weeks of Pheradrol left in the bottle, and even if I run out I have a unopened bottle of PP so im set their, also I have a unopened bottle of 1-AD....

Phera-drol -Would running 2 tabs for the 1st week, upping it to 3 for 2nd week, then on the 3rd week, dropping it back to 2 and adding in 1-AD and slowly pyramiding off of pheradrol be a good idea?

I figure this would equal out to about a 8 week cycle and could get me some good mass/strength gains.

Ideas?

 

[Iron Warrior]

Throw in some Test or at least 4-AD if you can and you got a solid cycle. The Pheradrol doesn't have to be used in a pyramid scheme, that scheme is BS with androgens. Start 1-AD from the beginning to the end of the cycle..

BTW, do you a PCT planned ? If not then you definitely need to put your cycle on hold and do some research.

 

[bpmartyr]

I don't see any benefit of trying to pyramid an oral with a short half life. Your just going to be spiking blood levels every time you dose. I would just run at the lowest effective dose for 3-4 weeks while simultaneously taking the 1AD for how ever many weeks your quantity of product will allow. 1AD will convert to 1test and even 1test by it's onesey's takes a few weeks to kick in. So I am thinkin

Weeks 1-3 or 4 20mg PP ed
Weeks 1-8 anywhere from 200-600mg ed depending on your tolerance. Start low as it can wreak havok on your ability to stay conscious. LOL

 

[PhoebeusFenix]

Thanks for the help...definately appreciated....


My post cycle will be....

Nolva- 40mg ed/ 1 week-30mg/ed week 2- 20mg ed/week 3 &4
6-0XO- 1 cap ed week1- 2 cap ed week 2- 3 cap ed week 3&4

And of cource milk thistle, and hawthorne berry...

 

[nightfly71]

I did a fairly similar cycle that ended almost a week ago. I did Ergomax LMG at 10 mg per day for the 1st 3 weeks, 20 per day for the final week.

I combined this w/ 8-10 sprays per day of 4Derm 4AD and 2-4 sprays per day of Big1 1-Test, also by Dermabolics.

Gains were very nice, as I put on approx. 18 lbs while ending at the same bf% as the day I started the cycle. 5 days into a very solid PCT, I was still up 15 lbs. I suspect the 3 lbs. I lost was probably water added during the cycle.

I'd recommend this cycle to anyone, based on the results I got and how good I felt throughout. The only side to speak of was uncomfortable lower back pumps that surfaced once I bumped the Ergo dosage up ti 20 mg.

Your cycle sounds very similar, so I hope you experience the same kind of gains I did. I plan to replicate this same cycle minus the 1-Test (I ran out of that) in about 2 months from now.

I'm keeping a log of it all over at BN, listed under Josh's # way mass stack. Check it out if you'd like to see how things went from day to day. Good luck w/ your cycle.

 

[PhoebeusFenix]

One other question, as I am already on my cycle, getting ready to add in !-ad....what time of the day is best to dose at? I usually to pp morning/noon/before bed...but where would 1-ad be best to put.

 

[nightfly71]

One other question, as I am already on my cycle, getting ready to add in !-ad....what time of the day is best to dose at? I usually to pp morning/noon/before bed...but where would 1-ad be best to put.

Dose at a higher fat containing meal, preferably a couple of hrs pre workout if you're doing just one dose per day, or spread evenly if it's more than one dose.

 

[dagecko]

One other question, as I am already on my cycle, getting ready to add in !-ad....what time of the day is best to dose at? I usually to pp morning/noon/before bed...but where would 1-ad be best to put.

This is interesting as I may run something similar...What dosages will you be running the 1AD at? Will you be adding in 4AD as well? Lastly, are you dosing once per day or split?

 

[PhoebeusFenix]

I am starting 1-ad at 100mg for probably a week, upping to 200mg on week 2, and then seeing from there. I am not adding 4-ad as I could not find any ...yea...Ill post results.

Dosing: On waking/first meal- 1 pheradrol
Noon- 1 pheradrol and 1 1-ad
Night 1 pheradrol

WIll adjust as I add pills.