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    Is this junk?


    The Original 4-AD
    Each capsule contains 100 mg. of 4-Androstene- 3, 17-diol (4-AD), very similar to 1-AD. Great to stack with any other Ando.
    YES THIS IS THE REAL THING.
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    Is it junk? It is oral 4-AD. It converts to test. Not very bioavailable. You need around .8-1g/d or more to have bearly enough active in your system to be effective.

    Very similar to 1-AD? Not at all. 1-AD is a prohormone to 1-test.
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    So is this basically what ergopharm had out before as (4-ad)?
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    Well, I can't vouch for the brand name or quality of what you posted, but, yes, 4-AD is what PA/ErgoPharm developed and distributed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    Well, I can't vouch for the brand name or quality of what you posted, but, yes, 4-AD is what PA/ErgoPharm developed and distributed.
    Thanks.
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    IMO its junk
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    If I were you I'd break open the caps and make a TD with the powder inside...
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    You really don't want to do that. There is surely plenty of filler in those capsules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    IMO its junk
    Si, basura.

    Go with restore or Jungle Warfare.
    My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    You really don't want to do that. There is surely plenty of filler in those capsules.
    Thanks for correcting me...that could explain a lot about some of my early failed experiments with PHs, specifically HDT's capped 4AD and...damn, I don't even remember what else I tried with it!

    Oh well...THANKS for pointing that out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv8er
    Si, basura.

    Go with restore or Jungle Warfare.
    I'm waiting for 2 bottles of JW as we speak..... I just came across that 4-ad and was wondering if it was any good..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mills
    I'm waiting for 2 bottles of JW as we speak..... I just came across that 4-ad and was wondering if it was any good..
    If it was transdermal, there would be a catfight over it.
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