Im running the pmax at 60 mg a day b/c I only respond to PP at high doses . . thus far I'm seeing nothing . . no strength increase, no sides, no pumps . . absolutely nothing . . I started the cycle 12 days ago and started the doseage at 6 pmax a day! . . I know that sounds high but I only respond to PP w/ high doseage . . thus far I feel P-Max is Bunk . . I will give it another week and a 1/2 before I form a concrete opinion b/c I stocked up on the stuff through prometabolix b/c I respond well to PP and this is "Supposedly" and exact clone to AX's PP . . . how about you have you tried it yet ?????