09-06-2006 06:51 PM
Can anyone break this down for me? The manufacturer claims it is almost identical to 1,4ad... any thoughts?
09-06-2006 07:17 PM
The dione versions of most PH's are not as effective and are more likely to convert to estrogen than the diol ones.
Originally Posted by swoody
09-06-2006 08:24 PM
Yeah, and I wish someone would put out some kind of nordiol product again with a little bit of a variation so its not on the list... I wanted to try it a while back cause it was supposed to be very mild on the hair... but from what I heard the 1,4ad was mild as well... so is this chemical structure basically the 1,4ad? I have no problem with it converting to a little bit more estrogen since I will do a proper PCD regimen...
09-06-2006 08:39 PM
lower conversion but it is similar. high doses for a long period gets expensive.
09-06-2006 09:21 PM
It is the same thing you're thinking it is. 1,4ADD was left off the list, but until they make a powder, this isn't going to be worth it since you'll need >1g/day to see results, or so I've been told.
09-07-2006 10:28 AM
i used 900mg/day, at 255lbs, and got results very quickly.
Originally Posted by Beebs
you can still purchase this legally from China or from a domestic powder remailer, even if the local sources no longer sell it in bulk. it's super cheap of course (as little as $.60/g but most have it around $1.50/g)
01-03-2009 04:19 PM
so is this 1,4-androstadiene-3, 17-dione worth taking?
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