Do you pin with a fast jab and get er done or do you ease in gently and slowly? and maybe your reason for the method you use...?
It's like your medatation time. be one with the needle and the juice.agreed ^^^^ all save one point.. .18g will chew up the Butyl faster than a 20g... you may think the change of guage is negligible, but I learned fast there is a major difference in damage to the seal... 18g are good for brewing as you don't need to repeatedly poke when you transfer and filter... The only other case I could see an 18g used without problems is when using glass amps.
Generally speaking, 20g's are drawmasters... 23-25g's for pinning.
Slow and Steady.. Calm and quiet... Cleanly and distraction free... that's the way I prefer.
i was thinking the same because its right there in front of you.planning to start pinning my self in the coming cycle, probably in the quads
I tried to shoot into my bi before. I didn't go fast, but it wasn't slow either. My bi twitched so hard I thought it ws going to bust the needle.the people that do it fast have never hit a big nerve before, then they don't ever do it again. :cry
:toofunny:It's like your medatation time. be one with the needle and the juice.
Actually I let the wife jab me in the a$$, I get to jab her in the a$$ so it's only fair!
ROB
how do you know what tempreture to inject at, and what would happen if you diddn't heat it at all?Go nice and slow bro. I like a 23guage x 1 1/2" on my glutes, 25 guage 1" on my delts. I pull my juice with a 18 though. I like to put my juice in a heating pad for a minute before I pin. It makes all the difference in the world. There is not set way to do it but this has worked well for me for a long time. Slide me a pm if you need more help.
Bis
how do you know what tempreture to inject at, and what would happen if you diddn't heat it at all?
Well said, agree 100%.agreed ^^^^ all save one point.. .18g will chew up the Butyl faster than a 20g... you may think the change of guage is negligible, but I learned fast there is a major difference in damage to the seal... 18g are good for brewing as you don't need to repeatedly poke when you transfer and filter... The only other case I could see an 18g used without problems is when using glass amps.
Generally speaking, 20g's are drawmasters... 23-25g's for pinning.
Slow and Steady.. Calm and quiet... Cleanly and distraction free... that's the way I prefer.
Hitting a nerve is something you will def know and remember...i can actually feel when i nick a vein . i dont think ive hit a nerve yet thank God. and if i did it mustve not been that bad lol.
I'm going to switch to a 25 i think to minimize scar tissue, i'm finding it hard to get the right spots now using a 22 gauge 1.5 inch, hitting a nerve in my quad KILLED. Think for calfs 1 inch would be fine?agreed ^^^^ all save one point.. .18g will chew up the Butyl faster than a 20g... you may think the change of guage is negligible, but I learned fast there is a major difference in damage to the seal... 18g are good for brewing as you don't need to repeatedly poke when you transfer and filter... The only other case I could see an 18g used without problems is when using glass amps.
Generally speaking, 20g's are drawmasters... 23-25g's for pinning.
Slow and Steady.. Calm and quiet... Cleanly and distraction free... that's the way I prefer.
When I had an injection done one time, this guy did it for me (test e by the way) and he heated it up, but the thing was he put it in the syringe first then heated it, I was told that it was a bad idea to do it that way and if so why?i would say warmer/as warm as body temp. if you do not heat it, it willl pass through a little slower and possibly you might feel a little more sore the next day as opposed to heating it first.
sterility issues.When I had an injection done one time, this guy did it for me (test e by the way) and he heated it up, but the thing was he put it in the syringe first then heated it, I was told that it was a bad idea to do it that way and if so why?
thats a detailed breakdown of how i do it too. You can tell when you are in muscle and sometimes it gets tougher to push so you have to push slower but you can go faster as you are pretty much in the safe zone once you are deep in the muscle. I always go slow thru the top layer tho'Slow, until i feel muscle penetration, then i go faster, sometimes i will feel pain at this point, so i stop for a few seconds until the pain subsides then start pushing slowly again.
Ya, as soon as the needle penetrates muscle, it can be pretty much plain sailing from there and i can usually push pretty fast at that point.thats a detailed breakdown of how i do it too. You can tell when you are in muscle and sometimes it gets tougher to push so you have to push slower but you can go faster as you are pretty much in the safe zone once you are deep in the muscle. I always go slow thru the top layer tho'
This is all very interesting to me as I don't really know about this area of using.
How do you not hit a nerve? How do you make sure you don't hit a nerve? Is there a guide or how to on how to do this stuff?
Not that I'm going this route but am intrigued and love to learn almost anything.
Much Love,
Neoborn
How deep do you go with the needle? How do you know when your 'in' the right spot? Does this process create alot of scare tissue? Is scar tissue why you rotate your injection points? Do you just insert and then push, I take it you don't draw back like IV injections?Neo, you get to know your sweet spots, so to speak.. but once in a while you'll twitch.. in that case you pull back and slightly redirect.
That's what some user told me.. I'm completely natural and an upstanding citizen.
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