Halodrol-50 vs Pro-turinabol
08-23-2006 06:48 AM
Halodrol-50 vs Pro-turinabol
While there is a ton of info on this and other forums re: Halodrol, there is little to no info on Gaspari's Pro-turinabol.
My question is, if I have both, what are the main differences and which is more likely to get better results (i.e. gains vs sides)?
The active ingredient in Halodrol is:
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3, 17b-diol
The active ingredient in Pro-turinabol is:
08-23-2006 07:23 AM
I finished up a H50 about 6 weeks ago..maybe 7. Never took turinabol. I can speak for H50 and say they weren't many sides to speak of. elevated BP for a few days, mild back pumps, random side pains but nothing bad at all. Not to mention I didn't lose a step in PCT and continued to gain. I was worried I would lose the pump after the cycle but I never missed a beat. Good ol' creatine and DHEA. Its about time I schedule my bloodwork to really see. I'll do that today. looks like a slow day here at work.
overall I went from 202 to 212...but lost at least 5 lbs of fat, probably alittle bit more. H50 was a great drug sad to see it go.
08-23-2006 08:45 AM
pro-turinabol is the precursor (prohormone) to oral turinabol and H50 is bascially the same as OT. H50 will provide much better results, especially considering how underdosed the pro-turin is and the fact that it still has to be converted in the liver to OT.
08-23-2006 10:04 AM
There is limited info on Pro-Turinabol because there was limited use, and it wasn't out for long. Some probably steered clear of it, as Gaspari couldn't get the compound structure right on their write-up.
Originally Posted by dafrenchdude66
Between their write-up and the Supp Facts label, they listed it as:
4-chloro-17-methyl-17-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3-ol - This is basically 17a-methyl-clostebol. Probably the intended target hormone, and not OT.
4a-chloro-17a-methyl-4-androstene-3,17-diol - According to one chemist, this exact compound cannot exist, as there is no alpha or beta 4-chloro. If we ignore the 4a, and assume it was a mistake, and say it's 4-chloro-17a-methyl-4-androstene-3,17-diol, then we have the same primary compound as Pro-Magnon 25.
4a-chloro-17a-methyl-5a-androstane-3, 17-diol - This looks like 4-chloro-17a-methyl-Androstanediol (can that exist, aside from the 4a??). Either way, it's not a precursor to OT
08-23-2006 10:19 AM
Pro-T is not the precursor to OT (If we even know the true compound). It doesn't even share the additional double-bond (the "-ene" in the 1 position). Even assuming it's the same compound as Pro-Magnon 25, it is very underdosed.
Originally Posted by same_old
Halodrol and Turinabol are not the same. Halodrol is the precursor, as it shares the 4-chloro, 17a-methyl, & diene (1,4) structure with the difference at the 3 position (-ol vs. -one). Once the 3b-HSD enzyme changes it to the 3-one, you have OT - 4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methylandrost-1,4-dien-3-one
08-24-2006 09:09 AM
mmm...i would think with the proper dosage, 17a-clostebol would be fantastic. no estrogen, no DHT, just the goodness of test. plus you could run it with deca (without a 5AR inhibitor) and have no MPB, gyno or prostate concerns.
Originally Posted by Mass_69
i admit i am lost on these compounds now. i was always under the impression that pro-Turin was a dione or diol, but that's just from memory....i also didnt realize that halodrol and pro-mag were diols and not active steroids. are you 100% on that? i'd look it up but i've never been interested in compounds to replace tbol, which is great, cheaper, and readily available.
08-24-2006 09:45 AM
Yeah, 17a-clostebol does sound good, and that is the target hormone of Pro-Magnon 25 (which everyone seemed to like).
Both Pro-Mag & HD were actually prohormones (both were diols). I can't post any links to their write-ups/structures, as none of our sponsors carry them anymore. But I can tell you what their structures are:
Halodrol - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3,17-diol
Target Hormone: Oral Turinabol - 4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-dien-3-one
Pro-Magnon 25 - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3,17-diol
Target Hormone: "methylclostebol" - 4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3-one
We still don't know for sure what Pro-Turinabol was, but my guess would be underdosed Pro-Mag.
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