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# fast acting PH's for shorter cycles

1. Dio, the thing is that i already have 23 grams of 4AD powder from 1fast. and since the cease of the transdermal use, i was just gonna buy some caps, and do 'em like that. ill still purchase more for a later trans cycle.

ill try and find some studies, etc. of "frontloading" 4AD. and prob. use a daily dose of 2000mg's.

thx a lot.

EDIT: oh crap, i guess im gonna have to buy more anyhow now. i dont even have enough to do a 2 week cycle of just 1800.

sigh........

2. You could use less, but you wanted a "really high" dose. If I were you, I'd just divide the 4AD by how long I want my cycle to last.

3. Originally posted by Dio
You could use less, but you wanted a &quot;really high&quot; dose. If I were you, I'd just divide the 4AD by how long I want my cycle to last.
heh, well lets see. if i divided 23000mg's by 14 days. i come up with 1642._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _'mg's/day.

so it could go like this:

weeks 3-4: 900mg's 1, 4 andro

(i have like 98 caps left of 1-AD- might as well throw em in the mix)

4. i was gonna buy some caps from 1fast, but dont know which ones to go with.

gelatin or cap em quick? wtf?? what does "O" and "OO" mean?

thx

5. Originally posted by Jergo
i was gonna buy some caps from 1fast, but dont know which ones to go with.

gelatin or cap em quick? wtf?? what does &quot;O&quot; and &quot;OO&quot; mean?

thx
0 and 00 are the size of caps, you may want to contact 1fast about that, as I'm not completely sure which hold how much. Let him know what you're doing and he'll help you out.

Don't know why you're going through so much trouble to take 4ad oral as it has to pass through the liver which means less absorbtion. Transdermal = no pass throgh liver = more absorbtion of phs.....and with the current formula makes it even more effective. Good luck anyways.

6. yeah, I dont know why you are taking the 4-AD orally either...and I'm too lazy to search your threads...blah...here's a chart that might be of some help

7. thx bros!!

the reason im not using a trans is because i work a summer job aside from college which makes me sweat, come in contact with other chemicals, etc., etc. and if that isnt enough, the added DMSO would let other contacts get absorbed as well. plus, i swim a lot in the summer

anywho, looks like all ill need is the "O" caps, but ill talk to Mike just in case.

thx again guys.

8. I see your point Jergo. My first cycle was an oral 4ad only cycle, which wasn't too bad.....people respond differently to phs, so keep that in mind. I got some bloat, so keep something on hand for that.... as mentioned above in this thread. You also may get distended belly, which will go away when you come off of 4ad. Pick up training Volume while 'on'.....lower while 'off'...... keep cals high.....have post cycle meds on hand. Good luck...keep us posted.

9. thx, will do.

10. ## my 2nd cycle!!

ok, i thought some people might be interested on my 2nd cycle. here goes:

this is how its gonna look.

weeks 1-2: 600mg 1AD + 600mg 1, 4 andro + 1000mg 4AD
weeks 3-4: 600mg 1, 4 andro + 1000mg 4AD

i went ahead and bought 6 more grams of 4AD so i could run it a straight 1000mg/day. again, these will all be taken orally.

i took it upon myself to use the formasin for on cycle gyno and bloat problems.

i will let everyone know how its goin and post like every 2 or 3 days with gains/stats/sides.

thank you for everyone's input to get me situated.

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