LOL Kamikaze cycle is right! How's your liver doing.
My PERSONAL belief is that the whole liver toxicity talk with a lot of these orals is totally overplayed. I have done a superdrol only cycle, an HD50/Orastan-E (prostan essentiall), superdrol/PP cycle, MTRN/MTST cycle etc etc. and several "other" non-oral cycles over the course of years.
I am VERY highly active and run currently 3x/week about 5miles per shot, do 3 different martial arts 3x/week, and cycle 2 to 3 times per week as well. My cardiovascular health is PERFECT. It is my absolute belief that if you are in great cardio health prior to these oral cycles, that your lipids, bp etc. do not get affected nearly as much as someone higher in body fat, or someone who minimizes cardio or eliminates it completely before/during a cycle. What little my lipids have changed each time, they bounce right back after post cycle therapy.
For 100% clarification: I have had pre and post cycle bloodwork done EVERY cycle with no exception. I have NEVER once had anything come back OUT OF RANGE ON ANY BLOOD TEST EVER!
Think about this, most people argue how strong MTRN is and few venture above 4mg/day due to evil sides, especially bp. I've taken it now at 6mg/day for 3 damn weeks and my bp tonight was like 108/67,,,damn perfect!!!!
Anyone can attempt to argue with me, but I hold my position that if you want to lessen the degree of toxicity and affects of these 17aa (other) oral steroids, you should be in excellent cardiovascular health before, during, and after cycle. I WILL NEVER eliminate cardio from any cycle I do, and every cycle will be a strict lean bulk cycle ONLY!
I rate my current cycle at 10+ out of 10. Most others would have died by Day 3, I have suffered 2 zits now in 20 days! Being that I am relatively small, have never touched a drop of alcohol in my life, never touched tobacco, and any "ILLEGAL" drugs, I can only attribute my great cycle and post cycle therapy results to my cardiovascular health.
NOTE: I have every imaginable ancillary in place and these were pre-loaded nearly 1.5months before this current cycle. I won't go into all of them, but I did my research on them.
5-week Insane (to most) Cycle:
First 2 wks: PHASE 1
HMAX: 50mg/day, 25mg/morn and 25mg/pre-wo
MTRN: 6mg/day, 2mg/morn, 2mg/afternoon, 2mg/pre-wo
MTST: 6mg/day, 2mg/morn, afternoon, pre-wo
MZOL: 150mg/day, 50mg/morn, afternoon, pre-wo
Letro: .50ml eod
Wk 3 to end of Wk 5 - one week completed as of today: PHASE 2
HMAX: 50mg/day, 25mg/morn and 25mg/pre-wo
MTRN: 6mg/day, 2mg/morn, 2mg/afternoon, 2mg/pre-wo
MZOL: 150mg/day, 50mg/morn, afternoon, pre-wo
superdrol: 10mg/day, pre-wo
Thyrotabs: 3tabs/day
Letro: .50mg eod
Phase 1 and Phase 2 combined are 5 weeks. There are only 2 weeks of overlap on 17aa methyls, the rest are methoxy, and have little effect on my lipids etc.
Currently: Day 20, +17.7lbs, NO water retention, as every one of these compounds I'm taking now is DRY in nature! Diet is perfect and protein intake is ~350g/day. Cals are 3200-3700 depending upon activity level that day (avg. is about 3500). 5'11", 187.7lbs, bf LOW.
TO RE-ITERATE: I FEEL GREAT, HIGH LIBIDO, TONS OF ENERGY, ALPHA-MALE ATTITUDE (MAJOR), and NO SIDES, PERIOD!!!! My roommate is an ER doctor, so I get the absolute best in care, advice, and the "watchful" eye. I don't recommend this cycle because, if I did, I'd get flame torched by the liver toxicity police :wave: . Knowing my body as well as I do, I will bet any one of you $100 that my bloodwork day 1 of post cycle therapy will be within range and will be no more than 5% different than it was pre-cycle. History has proved this to me, over and over. Get your cardio and health up naturally and these orals won't affect you as much as is "preached" so often.
post cycle therapy: I will drop the Letro at cycle end (end of 5th wk) and will resume with Nolva, rebound, all ancillaries etc.
Cliff notes: Thyrotabs are downright insane. Day 6 of them today, and I'm definitely feeling the "heat". There's an interesiting little "note" on the instruction sheets in the box. These have a bonus "prohormone" in them. And yes, THEY WORK well! I'm not even going to bother mentioning the insanely low bf level and insane vascularity, as I got into a pi$$ing match in my log a couple wks back with a few who can't believe there are people walking the earth at 4% bf who are not going into competition and ARE NOT a rack of bones. Uber-high metabolism, high energy, and tons of cardio help, no more said.
~12many~
