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    Unhappy Need Help in restoring libido In PCT


    i came off 3 week SD a few weeks back today is my 20th day in PCT the first week off i dont had any problems the second week intercorse was coming shorter than usual but now its freaking low.

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    week 2
    tamoxifen 40mg
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    glucosamine
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    Fenugreek
    MHP TBOMB II

    week 3
    tamoxifen 20mg
    Multi vit
    glucosamine
    Flax 9gr ED
    Milk THistle
    MHP TBOMB II
    i added Goliath Labs Ejaculoid to see if it help and nothing i also added hawthorn berries

    any recomendations or sugestions on what could be interacting , what should i add. I would really apreciated the help. Im kind of depresses for that.

    Thanks in advanced

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    Get thee Rebound Reloaded. Gave me a HUGE libido increase!
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    thanks JMH80, im going to order rebound reloaded, i also would like to ask if it could be a good idea at this point im my pct to ad DHEA and at what dosage, also thinking on adding some DS Basic cuts to shredd some fat.

    but rigth now im more worried about the libido decrese than fat
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    get your libido back and don't cut so close to PCT.

    LH boosters, Sapponins, usually do the trick for me.. DHEA is a good idea. T-bomb sounds like a Sapp product though.. Hang in there.. it comes back.. some take longer than others.

    Just don't worry about the fat right now.. keep that muscle.
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    thanks Ubiquitous, after i bought Tbomb i was told that it was underdosed so i been taking 5 pills in the morning and 5 more before going to the gym instead of the 3 pills 2 times a day, i really dont like it , it smells like soy, i dont feel any diference i felt more from ultimate nutrition bulgarian trib. i really need my libido back its kind of embarrassing with the girls, more whent they tell you, that sometimes happend dont worry
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    Dude i had the same problem a week ago. It turns out that Novadex although it increases your LH production, it also decreases your libido. So after about 2 and a half weeks on it i went on Novedex by Gaspari and it's working now.. Also L-arginine is supposed to help... If none of that stuff works get some Tadalafil(Cialis)... that will work wonders.. girls will think that you're superman.... Last time I took it I went for 4 hrs straight.... took a dinner break and then went for 3 more hrs.... had my girl smilling for days. O yeah if you do get Taladafil, DO NOT TAKE L-ARGININE at the same time too.. IT will fvc* you up really bad. It drops your BP too low
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    thanks animalXXX, i had read that nolva decreses libido , but i was thinking it wasnt the nolva because when i was at 60mg ed i didnt had any problems,but maybe it is, i just have to wait one more week to be off the nolva, i been also considering that the high cholesterol would lower my libido.

    At first when i posted this thread i was depresed as hell, now see in the replys had help me big time, im still kind of depressed but not as much, thanks
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    Somewhere between 100 and 200 mgs of DHEA should be fine.
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    Fenugreek and DHEA,work wonders for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie
    thanks animalXXX, i had read that nolva decreses libido , but i was thinking it wasnt the nolva because when i was at 60mg ed i didnt had any problems,
    That first week of PCT you still had superdrol floating around in your system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahright
    That first week of post cycle therapy you still had superdrol floating around in your system.
    I agree. I also didn't have problems until about 8 days into the Nolva. Then all of a sudden even my morning wood dissepeared. well 2 days into Novedex i've got my "morning glory" back again and my girl is happy. There's nothing more frustrating than having a girl tell you "it's ok. it happens to other guys too". You could also try this product called Nasutra. It's preaty much an over the counter version of Viagra. Supposed to work ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Somewhere between 100 and 200 mgs of DHEA should be fine.
    for how many days or weeks?
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    your PCT was pretty weak. clomid + and anti-aromatase would have been smart....nolva solo isnt enough for many people.

    i came off a 30-weeker less than 4 weeks ago and i have had wonderful erections, even without tribulus. (i used HCG during the cycle, and then 6OXO/clomid/LXT/IGF/MGF during PCT)
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    Quote Originally Posted by same_old
    your post cycle therapy was pretty weak. clomid + and anti-aromatase would have been smart....nolva solo isnt enough for many people.

    i came off a 30-weeker less than 4 weeks ago and i have had wonderful erections, even without tribulus. (i used HCG during the cycle, and then 6OXO/clomid/LXT/IGF/MGF during PCT)
    agreed.. Nolva.. not a fan.

    I came off a similar length run recently as well.. libido came back stronger than on.

    same-old, mabe we aren't so different.. you and I.
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    Ubi - you need to check my "kitchen sink" PCT - it rocks.


    4 weeks of DHEA is fine. Run it like this 200/150/100/50 mgs/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Ubi - you need to check my "kitchen sink" post cycle therapy - it rocks.
    I have the same name for mine... can you say soulmate?

    and... where is it pray tell Jimmy Ho?
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    Toremifene/transdermal with DHEA,b-AET,7-OH, & 7-oxo/Rebound Reloaded/Retain (one cap)/Xceed/HMB (6 grams)/fenugreek/Powerfull/Nettle Root/methyl B-12 IM every few days.

    And tyrosine, alcar, rhodiola, bacopa, Brain Drive, yohimbine, arginine/lysine/orinthine at bedtime, NOXidant - and some other sh*t that I can't remember off the top of my head.

    I've got other stuff I wanted to throw in - Anagen - but I'm tired of taking all of those f*cking pills. (My joint stuff - Omega Flex - plus the regular vitamins is getting crazy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Toremifene/transdermal with DHEA,b-AET,7-OH, & 7-oxo/Rebound Reloaded/Retain (one cap)/Xceed/HMB (6 grams)/fenugreek/Powerfull/Nettle Root/methyl B-12 IM every few days.

    And tyrosine, alcar, rhodiola, bacopa, Brain Drive, yohimbine, arginine/lysine/orinthine at bedtime, NOXidant - and some other sh*t that I can't remember off the top of my head.

    I've got other stuff I wanted to throw in - Anagen - but I'm tired of taking all of those f*cking pills. (My joint stuff - Omega Flex - plus the regular vitamins is getting crazy.)
    Toremifene, DHEA, B-AET, 7-OH, 7-OXO, Retain, Fenu, Phosphadityl (sp), Maca, Powerfull, Nettle Root, B-12 IM ED, Tryosine, Kelp, Guggul, Alcar, Rhodiola Rosea, Nitrox, Green Bulge, mmm I'm forgetting stuff... and a bunch of other ED supps.

    Synergistic, or Overkill? All I know is that it worked like a charm after 7 months on... super cool boners all around.

    Nice job Jimmy, you think like Ninja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Toremifene/transdermal with DHEA,b-AET,7-OH, & 7-oxo/Rebound Reloaded/Retain (one cap)/Xceed/HMB (6 grams)/fenugreek/Powerfull/Nettle Root/methyl B-12 IM every few days.

    And tyrosine, alcar, rhodiola, bacopa, Brain Drive, yohimbine, arginine/lysine/orinthine at bedtime, NOXidant - and some other sh*t that I can't remember off the top of my head.

    I've got other stuff I wanted to throw in - Anagen - but I'm tired of taking all of those f*cking pills. (My joint stuff - Omega Flex - plus the regular vitamins is getting crazy.)
    damn dude.... all that stuff adds up to a lot of money.. A WHOLE LOTTA money.... it all sounds nice but i don't know how many people would be able to come up with so much money.. if dealing with a lower budget i think Nova, Novedex and Retain will do... but that's my opinion... the opinion of a broke man
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalXXX
    damn dude.... all that stuff adds up to a lot of money.. A WHOLE LOTTA money.... it all sounds nice but i don't know how many people would be able to come up with so much money.. if dealing with a lower budget i think Nova, Novedex and Retain will do... but that's my opinion... the opinion of a broke man
    Agreed.
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    Bro - I'm in another tax bracket. I make a boatload of money - live alone. I drive a POS car (have a nice house though).

    I spend my money on supps (after bills, that is).

    Probably overkill - but who cares. I don't have a wife to report to.
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    my vote is for overkill on the kitchen sink PCT...but i'm a habitual pill-popper too, so i cant cast a stone.

    still, 3 different kinds of DHEA? that just seems silly.
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    my reasoning is much like JMHO's, except I have a wife to report to..

    Also if there is one thing to go overkill on.. it would be PCT. I think we would agree on that.
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    I prefer to go overkill on my Anabolics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous
    my reasoning is much like JMHO's, except I have a wife to report to..

    Also if there is one thing to go overkill on.. it would be post cycle therapy. I think we would agree on that.
    for the record, i disagree with everything Ubi says about everything....unless of course he is saying "same_old is a ****stick" or something equivalent....haha

    it's your body and your money...run it any way you want, just make sure to have clomid and a mild anti-aromatase in there, preferably not ATD (too strong)...
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    hey now, I thought I made it all good on this very thread (post #14) between you and I. Plus I would never call you a ****stick.. I imposed a moratorium on personal attacks a long time ago. Besides I don't think you are one.

    And you were right about Primo Standalone too.. i was just pissy that day. same_old.. let's make up buddy.. We aren't so different are we?

    And I really hope you would disagree with me if I said that. I think that's what you meant.:bb:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Bro - I'm in another tax bracket. I make a boatload of money - live alone.

    i wish i could say the same thing.. what do you do bro that you make a boatload of money??
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    get some maca. 4g a day. kicks in in a week or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie
    thanks Ubiquitous, after i bought Tbomb i was told that it was underdosed so i been taking 5 pills in the morning and 5 more before going to the gym instead of the 3 pills 2 times a day, i really dont like it , it smells like soy, i dont feel any diference i felt more from ultimate nutrition bulgarian trib. i really need my libido back its kind of embarrassing with the girls, more whent they tell you, that sometimes happend dont worry
    tbomb II loves to kick all estrogen in the face. taking 5 pills a day is probably what is killing your libido. let the tbomb slide for awhile and see if things get better.

    i had the same problem at one point, let that estrogen back into the mix a little bit and your boners will thank you.
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    thnaks jomi822, im going to take it off my list, i was thinking that tbomb was helping me because when i missed a dose i felt kind of tired to go to the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie
    i came off 3 week superdrol a few weeks back today is my 20th day in post cycle therapy the first week off i dont had any problems the second week intercorse was coming shorter than usual but now its freaking low.

    PCT
    week 1
    tamoxifen 60mg
    Multi vit
    glucosamine
    Flax 9gr ED
    Milk THistle
    MHP Tbomb II

    week 2
    tamoxifen 40mg
    Multi vit
    glucosamine
    Flax 9gr ED
    Milk THistle
    Fenugreek
    MHP TBOMB II

    week 3
    tamoxifen 20mg
    Multi vit
    glucosamine
    Flax 9gr ED
    Milk THistle
    MHP TBOMB II
    i added Goliath Labs Ejaculoid to see if it help and nothing i also added hawthorn berries

    any recomendations or sugestions on what could be interacting , what should i add. I would really apreciated the help. Im kind of depresses for that.

    Thanks in advanced
    Hey bro the tamox(Nolvadex) is known to also supress libido. I would use some tribulus in my PCT. Make sure the trib has atleast 40% or more saponins.
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    it seem to be getting better my libido, since i droped the tbomb and i added dhea, but im still waiting in on the rebound reloaded.

    thanks to all for the recomendations
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    bump. . .


    its me again, my order that included Rebound reloaded got delay and its getting here today(6/27) but with the DHEA and the increment of fenugreek my libido seams to be better, now here is the question, should i still take rebound reloaded or just put it away for my next cycle?(im on my 28th day of pct)

    what dou you guys sugest, really apreciate the input, looking forward to the answers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie
    bump. . .


    its me again, my order that included Rebound reloaded got delay and its getting here today(6/27) but with the DHEA and the increment of fenugreek my libido seams to be better, now here is the question, should i still take rebound reloaded or just put it away for my next cycle?(im on my 28th day of post cycle therapy)

    what dou you guys sugest, really apreciate the input, looking forward to the answers
    Are you feeling "better" or "back to normal"?
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    not completely back to normal but theres an improvement, i just received my supps im also going to add some SAN Fierce to test it out. im not sure if it was that but when i stoped using nolva and tbomb II and i added the DHEA i was felling better the next day, my morning wood got back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie
    not completely back to normal but theres an improvement, i just received my supps im also going to add some SAN Fierce to test it out. im not sure if it was that but when i stoped using nolva and tbomb II and i added the DHEA i was felling better the next day, my morning wood got back
    You might want to try the RR then for a week. Your PCT didn't go too well so extending it a bit may be warranted. Remember, your goal is to get your HPTA function back up and running.
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    thanks yeahright, i was a fraid that rebound would give me a result like tbomb II and novla, (eliminate alot of estrogen and also the libido with that)
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    i took nolva once when i was running 750mg of test per week and my nips started feeling tingly, so it successfully prevents gyno, but it also made me feel like i had blue balls every night for no reason and it f*cking hurt. i was diagnosed with hypogonadism a couple months ago and took 50mg of clomid every day for about 4 weeks, went back to get bloodwork, and everything was normal! Coming off my cycle now of Test, PP, and TRN, I have clomid and reboundxt lined up, but the way this post is sounding, I might pick up some DHEA as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred869
    i took nolva once when i was running 750mg of test per week and my nips started feeling tingly, so it successfully prevents gyno, but it also made me feel like i had blue balls every night for no reason and it f*cking hurt. i was diagnosed with hypogonadism a couple months ago and took 50mg of clomid every day for about 4 weeks, went back to get bloodwork, and everything was normal! Coming off my cycle now of Test, PP, and TRN, I have clomid and reboundxt lined up, but the way this post is sounding, I might pick up some DHEA as well.
    i would really recomend that you add DHEA and some fenugreek, it made my face kind of oily (DHEA)and i had few acne but its mild. But it really helps
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