Making injectable superdrol....

[RDXg0d]

is it possible? at what rate would it dissolve ? what to use ?
PEG 400, 200, bb, ba , and how much? I've had success with making 4-AD in a oil suspension with some super solvent, any suggestions, or is it just a stupid idea.

[size]

No need in my opinion. It is an orally active steroid.

[diamonddave]

or is it just a stupid idea.

[AndroAnarchy]

Idk a whole lot about all this stuff, but when i read this, i was thinking how it is methylated to be delivered through the stomach, being injected in the blood would make the methyl go to the heart and sounds unsafe to me...

[size]

Idk a whole lot about all this stuff, but when i read this, i was thinking how it is methylated to be delivered through the stomach, being injected in the blood would make the methyl go to the heart and sounds unsafe to me...

One does not inject AAS intravenously, but rather AAS are injected intramusclar. Methylated AAS are sometimes injected IM such as winstrol but it is not necessary in most cases.

[Hbs6]

Idk a whole lot about all this stuff, but when i read this, i was thinking how it is methylated to be delivered through the stomach, being injected in the blood would make the methyl go to the heart and sounds unsafe to me...

winny is methylated whether you inject it or take it orally.

[RDXg0d]

i was thinking it would be cost effective , in a way even tho superdrol aint that expensive, but i would be nice to see the results and the effects, but i'll hold off......but it will be a future experiment

[snakebyte05]

i was thinking it would be cost effective , in a way even tho superdrol aint that expensive, but i would be nice to see the results and the effects, but i'll hold off......but it will be a future experiment

cost effective how? You get basically all the active chemical by taking it orally, how much more are you going to get by injecting? With cost of filters, oils, needles you would be wasting money for something that is almost 100% absorbed when taken orally. Results would be the same as taking it orally, so i dont get what you would gain from injecting it.

[Jason_L]

I'm not going to dismiss the idea entirely - it may reduce the "harsh sides" so many people worry about?

[Hbs6]

either way...its the same compound

[idunk42]

either way...its the same compound

Not really. Its designed to pass through your liver and then do its magic. By injecting it, your taking away a huge part of the process. Really dont know what the result of that skipped process might be.

[animalXXX]

I'm not going to dismiss the idea entirely - it may reduce the "harsh sides" so many people worry about?

Not everybody has "harsh sides" from it. I've actually had no sides at all. Even more i felt awsome on it. And you are putting the same chemical compund in you, what makes you think that you're body is going to react any different than it would orally?

[Jason_L]

Not everybody has "harsh sides" from it. I've actually had no sides at all. Even more i felt awsome on it. And you are putting the same chemical compund in you, what makes you think that you're body is going to react any different than it would orally?

LOL.. how you "felt" means very little. It's about liver stress, lipids, etc., which can be hitting you hard w/o you even knowing it. All of which are significantly worse with orals vs popular injectables. Particularly methyls, as they are liver-toxic. Bypassing first-pass (ie, pinning, TDS) avoids a lot of the liver stress. Thats often why folks can pin for much longer cycles then they can use orals - orals are just much harder on you and need to be limited. This is generalizing, but you should have uderstood these general principles before you did a cycle.

Not really. Its designed to pass through your liver and then do its magic. By injecting it, your taking away a huge part of the process. Really dont know what the result of that skipped process might be.

But superdrol is not a pro-hormone, it's a steroid, so there shouldn't really be any requirement for first pass metabolism. It's methylated, so it should pass the liver intact (at a price though).

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[Jason_L]

either way...its the same compound

again, it's about the toxicity of orals vs injectables. And there is often a big difference. In theory, if one reduced the toxicity of superdrol, they could potentialy use it for much longer cycles. Think methyl test vs injectable test...

I would research oral vs injectable winstrol to see if it is worthwhile, as it's a methyl.

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[UnicronSpawn]

The only logic I can see in it is that it would only pass through the liver on the second pass and probably be a little easier on liver value's than oral. But like SnakeByte said, all the other stuff youd need to make the stuff would sort of eliminate any cost benefits.
I dont know how profound of an effect (if any) oral methasteron first pass liver breakdown has on IGF production. But I do recall that a criticism that was made about the injectable Dbol products, were that while it reduced liver stress, it also negated the IGF boost, wich was one of the great benefits of oral Dbol. But like I said, I've yet to read about oral methasteron's effect on IGF production.

[size]

Can one inject dbol? yes.
Can one inject winstrol? yes.
The argument is not whether or not one can inject superdrol, but rather is it worth it? In my opinion, the answer is no.

[animalXXX]

LOL.. how you "felt" means very little. It's about liver stress, lipids, etc., which can be hitting you hard w/o you even knowing it. All of which are significantly worse with orals vs popular injectables. Particularly methyls, as they are liver-toxic. Bypassing first-pass (ie, pinning, TDS) avoids a lot of the liver stress. Thats often why folks can pin for much longer cycles then they can use orals - orals are just much harder on you and need to be limited. This is generalizing, but you should have uderstood these general principles before you did a cycle.

I know all of that... I did everything that I could to keep the lipid and liver in check. All I'm saying is that you have all these people crying about backpumps and headaches and a whole lot of other side effects which I never experienced. Anyways the truth is that in the end it's just not worth making it in injectable form. It's not cost effective.

[kwyckemynd00]

Can one inject dbol? yes.
Can one inject winstrol? yes.
The argument is not whether or not one can inject superdrol, but rather is it worth it? In my opinion, the answer is no.

ding, ding, ding...winner!

[Jason_L]

Can one inject dbol? yes.
Can one inject winstrol? yes.
The argument is not whether or not one can inject superdrol, but rather is it worth it? In my opinion, the answer is no.

Not everyone has the same needs, financial requirements, etc. I personaly wouldn't pin for my own reasons, but I have no doubt that there's some people who would be interested in it if it meant they could do longer cycles safely. Let's pretend for a minute that making superdrol and PP into an injectable was viable, and that as an injectable it had less sides regarding lipids, etc. I bet there would be people interested in stacking these in 10+ week cycles, etc., if they could. It might cost more then "regular gear", but they would potentialy have similar gains w/o dealing with source issues, etc. Granted, there's a ton of assumptions in those last few sentences, but I think it's a valid curiosity. I would think the more relevant, ultimate question would then become "would it be worth it vs homebrewing from fina or syno".
LOL - I just talked myself into your same stance - im my opinion, it's not worth it. Go get some pellets

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[size]

Granted, there's a ton of assumptions in those last few sentences, but I think it's a valid curiosity. I would think the more relevant, ultimate question would then become "would it be worth it vs homebrewing from fina or syno".

This is my thought process. Sure it can be done. Is it worth it though? Time it takes, possibility of mistakes in the preparation, possibility of heavier sides from injecting, etc.