CHAPS said:I'm not sure of the absorption rate on the transdermal so i can't comment on that, but i think you need to up the Proviron to 75mg or 100mg and keep nolvadex on hand. And i asume from the tren ester and dose this isn't your first time running it, good luck with the cycle, i can't wait to try a higher dose tren cycle, i'm at 75mg eod and even while dieting strength is phenominal.
bpmartyr said:Looks good bro. That TD test will kick in fast, you will like it. May consider tapering down as the cyp kicks in. 200mg TD ed should yield about 420mg ew of straight no ester test. Yeah buddy! Lightweight! Ho!
Thar Proviron is a nice little addition. Good stuff.
JBlaze said:Lol I make not even make it to week 5 on the TD. Dermals piss me off, so ill see what happens. I might end it week 4, but we'll see what happens.
bpmartyr said:Make a suspension. You will use a lot less TNE that way and avoid the bathing in lemony alcohol.
Ubiquitous said:Looks good to me. Nice doses too. I'd keep your proposed dose of Proviron to guage how you like it, before bumping it.![]()
Ubiquitous said:Looks good to me. Nice doses too. I'd keep your proposed dose of Proviron to guage how you like it, before bumping it.![]()
snakebyte05 said:I'd also bump on the proviron as well. My cycle that I used it I was at 100mgs and tapered down (there was a reason for starting high, it was one of those blitz dermal cycles with the ramping up and down of dosages). I'd say up to 75mgs as well. It'll be nice to have that and getting you some more free test from that dermal you are using. Good luck with the cycle, ive always wanted to try tren. :twisted:
JBlaze said:After trying tren I've never run a cycle without it. =)
snakebyte05 said:What kind of sides do you get with it? Im guessing few since you run it in all cycles now. Also have you used tren-e before, how did it compare to tren ace? Im really curious since I might want to try some this winter for a nice clean bulk, maybe lose a few lbs fat with it :twisted:
CHAPS said:When taking tren you should use cabergoline and yes you can use nolvadex.
FitModel said:you "can" but it's better to use Letro (and B6)...like I said nolva could cause more gyno, rather then stopping it (when in combo with tren)...
or at least that's what I've read/heard
FitModel said:Nolva will lessen the effect of the letro!! nolva makes type -2 AI's less effective. Also never use nolva with tren see this thread.. Invalid Link Removed
CHAPS said:JBlaze: What the highest you've ever gone with Tren and what were the results? I've read an article by Basskiller (Tren GURU) that said 75mg eod minimum, i'm thinking of doing 400mg possibly 500mg of Tren Enthanate for my next cycle, with 500mg Test Enthante, what do you think? I'm interest to see the aggression/strength i'll have while using Tren+Halo while dieting, already those aspects of Tren are making dieting MUCH MUCH MUCH more bareable.
Mulletsoldier said:No it doesn't. That is brotelligence at it's finest. Invalid Link Removed
Third page.
Also, through my research I garnered that an AI, at least Letro while on cycle will not hinder your gains.
Letrozole is highly specific in inhibiting aromatase activity. Impairment of adrenal steroidogenesis has not been observed. No clinically relevant changes in the plasma levels of cortisol, aldosterone, 11-deoxycortisol, 17-hydroxy-progesterone, ACTH (adrenocorticotropic hormone) or in plasma renin activity were found in postmenopausal patients treated with 0.1 to 5 mg letrozole daily. The ACTH stimulation test performed after 6 and 12 weeks of treatment with daily doses of 0.1 to 5 mg letrozole did not indicate any attenuation of aldosterone or cortisol production. Thus, glucocorticoid or mineralocorticoid supplementation is not required.Letrozole had no effect on plasma androgen concentrations (androstenedione and testosterone"
JBlaze said:Mullet- Random comment but i think you should consider becoming a gold member. You currently have enought points to get one of the various 400 point supplements. The amount of time you spend on the forum, I bet the membership would pay for itself in supplements in like a month.
FitModel said:okay...so can I get some advice on what dosage of Letro and NOLVA to use DURING this cycle...
shoud I save the nolva for only If I see gyno...or start both (considering i'm somewhat gyno prone)
Mulletsoldier said:Yeah, here is a great tip..Read mang, this has been answered so many times.
Mulletsoldier said:Mang: (m, noun)
A colloquial expression used in place of the word man. It is used in slang and is mostly likely derived from the pronunciation first observed by Al Pacino's character Tony Montana in the movie Scarface.
Douchebag: (m, noun)
A noun used to describe an individual possessing qualities likened to a douche. Also slang it can be used to describe ignorance, laziness, arrogance, or simply being an *******.
Now to answer your question. If you are gyno prone it is acceptable to dose 10mg ED of Tamox while on cycle, if you have a flare up bump to 40mg ED and taper. If using Letro concurrently 0.5-1 mg ED is the suggested dose. However, Letro is a powerful AI and not much is needed. Also let it be known the side effect profile increases exponentially with Letro, and be prepared for a crushed libido..There you go, douchebag.
BOHICA said:I'm currently in the middle of a prop tren ace cycle and I'm running 150 EOD. I love it and will be coming off at the end of the month. Running 250 hcg 2x a week and .25 adex ed with it. Gonna use DHEA and Tomrifene as my post cycle therapy so I'll let you know how well I came off. Tren is the only thing I've ever used that has tried to give me gyno but its going down since the adex. Never run a cycle without tren or prop anymore either. Now if I could only find an oral or kick start it since dbol sucks for me![]()
JBlaze said::blink: A little late on the response bro....i'm already like halfway thru my cycle, LoL.