[JBlaze]

Here is my final proposed cycle. I'll be running this in about two months and I need to make sure I grab everything I need beforehand.

1-5 Test Base TD: 200 mg/ed
1-11 Test Cyp: 750 mg/wk
1-10 Tren Enan: 600 mg/wk
1-10 Proviron: 50mg/ed

What do you think?

[CHAPS]

I'm not sure of the absorption rate on the transdermal so i can't comment on that, but i think you need to up the Proviron to 75mg or 100mg and keep nolvadex on hand. And i asume from the tren ester and dose this isn't your first time running it, good luck with the cycle, i can't wait to try a higher dose tren cycle, i'm at 75mg eod and even while dieting strength is phenominal.

[JBlaze]

I'm not sure of the absorption rate on the transdermal so i can't comment on that, but i think you need to up the Proviron to 75mg or 100mg and keep nolvadex on hand. And i asume from the tren ester and dose this isn't your first time running it, good luck with the cycle, i can't wait to try a higher dose tren cycle, i'm at 75mg eod and even while dieting strength is phenominal.

Yep ran a couple cycles of both test/tren. Never used proviron before.

[bpmartyr]

Looks good bro. That TD test will kick in fast, you will like it. May consider tapering down as the cyp kicks in. 200mg TD ed should yield about 420mg ew of straight no ester test. Yeah buddy! Lightweight! Ho!

Thar Proviron is a nice little addition. Good stuff.

[JBlaze]

Looks good bro. That TD test will kick in fast, you will like it. May consider tapering down as the cyp kicks in. 200mg TD ed should yield about 420mg ew of straight no ester test. Yeah buddy! Lightweight! Ho!

Thar Proviron is a nice little addition. Good stuff.

Lol I make not even make it to week 5 on the TD. Dermals piss me off, so ill see what happens. I might end it week 4, but we'll see what happens.

[bpmartyr]

Lol I make not even make it to week 5 on the TD. Dermals piss me off, so ill see what happens. I might end it week 4, but we'll see what happens.

Make a suspension. You will use a lot less TNE that way and avoid the bathing in lemony alcohol.

[JBlaze]

Make a suspension. You will use a lot less TNE that way and avoid the bathing in lemony alcohol.

already got the TD's ready =\

[Ubiquitous]

Looks good to me. Nice doses too. I'd keep your proposed dose of Proviron to guage how you like it, before bumping it.

[idunk42]

Sorry for the highjack, but Ubi did you like your little present? Did it make things seem a lil more romantic between you and your sugarpants?

[bpmartyr]

Looks good to me. Nice doses too. I'd keep your proposed dose of Proviron to guage how you like it, before bumping it.

Looked like you said "before humping it". Had to do a double take on that one.

[Ubiquitous]

god I know, my sillyness is ruining my serious posts.. I need to hold back a bit.

[JBlaze]

Looks good to me. Nice doses too. I'd keep your proposed dose of Proviron to guage how you like it, before bumping it.

Yeah, i've never used proviron before. Thats the main reason why I'd rather no increase.

[JBlaze]

K looks like cycle will remain the same with possibly a tapering down on the cyp around week 4, and possibly raising the proviron to 75mg/ED around week 6.

[snakebyte05]

I'd also bump on the proviron as well. My cycle that I used it I was at 100mgs and tapered down (there was a reason for starting high, it was one of those blitz dermal cycles with the ramping up and down of dosages). I'd say up to 75mgs as well. It'll be nice to have that and getting you some more free test from that dermal you are using. Good luck with the cycle, ive always wanted to try tren.

[JBlaze]

I'd also bump on the proviron as well. My cycle that I used it I was at 100mgs and tapered down (there was a reason for starting high, it was one of those blitz dermal cycles with the ramping up and down of dosages). I'd say up to 75mgs as well. It'll be nice to have that and getting you some more free test from that dermal you are using. Good luck with the cycle, ive always wanted to try tren.

After trying tren I've never run a cycle without it. =)

[CHAPS]

Ya i think i'm at that point too bro! I LOVE TREN, maybe even more than...dare i say it, TEST, lol. Naw i'd never trun Tren without Test.

[snakebyte05]

After trying tren I've never run a cycle without it. =)

What kind of sides do you get with it? Im guessing few since you run it in all cycles now. Also have you used tren-e before, how did it compare to tren ace? Im really curious since I might want to try some this winter for a nice clean bulk, maybe lose a few lbs fat with it

Same Q to you chaps.

[JBlaze]

What kind of sides do you get with it? Im guessing few since you run it in all cycles now. Also have you used tren-e before, how did it compare to tren ace? Im really curious since I might want to try some this winter for a nice clean bulk, maybe lose a few lbs fat with it

Test/tren are the base of any cycle I run. I enjoy the really lean muscle you get from tren. Whatever muscle I gain seems to stick around.

I've used both tren acetate and enanthate and can't tell a difference between the two. Though it's a bit more expensive, the ED injects get a little old so I perfer the tren-E.

[CHAPS]

Well I can tell you this i'm actually cutting right now and using Tren for the first time, i'm using Test Prop and Tren Acetate. My doses are 150mg eod/75mg eod I started at 282lbs now i'm 280lbs but i've packed on muscle and am getting leaner, harder AND stronger by the day. This stuff other than primo is the only steroid that will keep you in an anabolic state while in a calorie deficent. As far as sides ya sleep isn't what it normally is and at first i was getting night sweats but now they are gone. I really could care less about the injections, but i'll probably switch to enthanate for next cycle to minimize scar tissue. I can't comment on using it for bulking but i can already tell it would take bulking to a whole new level, and from what i've heard you get more permance to your gains as well. I'm also getting a more dense look to my muscles and getting more vascular. I'm also not having any appetite problems like i normally would when dieting, (appetite goes into overdrive). I have read that in Europe most guys use Tren like we use Test, as the base of every cycle, and they consider Test to be a nasty drug. I have no doubt that even when fullout bulking you'll stay leaner than normal while gaining only quality muscle and strength will skyrocket. My next cycle is most likely going to be another cutter but of Test/Tren/Halo, I wanna get CONTEST cut.

[CHAPS]

JBlaze: What the highest you've ever gone with Tren and what were the results? I've read an article by Basskiller (Tren GURU) that said 75mg eod minimum, i'm thinking of doing 400mg possibly 500mg of Tren Enthanate for my next cycle, with 500mg Test Enthante, what do you think? I'm interest to see the aggression/strength i'll have while using Tren+Halo while dieting, already those aspects of Tren are making dieting MUCH MUCH MUCH more bareable.

[FitModel]

why are you using Proviron?

When taken tren you should also administer Letro...NOT nolva

[CHAPS]

When taking tren you should use cabergoline and yes you can use nolvadex.

[FitModel]

When taking tren you should use cabergoline and yes you can use nolvadex.

you "can" but it's better to use Letro (and B6)...like I said nolva could cause more gyno, rather then stopping it (when in combo with tren)...

or at least that's what I've read/heard

[bpmartyr]

you "can" but it's better to use Letro (and B6)...like I said nolva could cause more gyno, rather then stopping it (when in combo with tren)...

or at least that's what I've read/heard

How would Nolva and Tren = gyno? Correct me if I am wrong but my thoughs are: The Nolva will act as the estrogen in the breast tissue thus stopping any gyno. Letro is effective as well seeing that prolactin doesn't seem to cause a problem in the absence of estrogen but I would rather have some estrogen (for it's positive benefits) and inhibit some of the prolactin. Alas, Cabergoline.

[CHAPS]

Couldn't have said it better myself