1st post/1st cycle - Sust. 250 injects hurt!
- 05-18-2006, 12:57 AM
1st post/1st cycle - Sust. 250 injects hurt!
New to the board and was hoping to get some help. I'm currently on my first cycle of Sust./winny and i'm on my third injection. The problem is I'm still having agonizing pain from my injection just 3 days ago. It's swollen but not hot too touch. I'm only doing 2 injections per week for a total of 500mg. I'm not sure I can go through with this pain. Here is what I've researched as far as potential problems: 1) Test Propionate is kicking my ass 2) receptors are getting use to the gear 3) gear is UG so it could be "dirty" or "overdosed" or it could be 100% prop for all I know.
Anyway, I was thinking of getting my hands on some Test Enthatate and diluting it. BTW, the winny i'm taking orally. I know the gear is kicking in because i'm bloated and getting zits. Took 1 mg. of Anastrozol which should clear that up. Any help would be appreciated because I am dreading doing my next injection.
- 05-18-2006, 04:20 AM
Originally Posted by jetty
Are you rotating injection sites? I cant see how your receptors are getting use to something on the third dose. Doesnt make sense to me, I hope you dont inject the same spot everytime.
its my first cycle of anything and I am using prop so far no real problems.
05-18-2006, 06:33 AM
Ok first off did you mean Anastrozole? If so 1mg is WAY too much. .25mg a day would be fine. But you really don’t need it anyway; diet is the number one bloat control tool. Get rid of your salts and watch your carbs. Go take a look here http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbull...&threadid=16753 at canadagold’s post to get an idea of how well that can work
As for the sustanon 250 I don’t like it to start with.As to why it hurts well I am hoping that you’re not using IP gear. But the usual culprit in sustanon is the benzyl alcohol. Your best bet is to dilute it with sterile oil. You can ether make this or buy some from the board sponsors. I would do this, mix it 50/50 with the sustanon and go to an every other day injection schedule. That would be ~1.15cc of the mixture every other day or ~143mg. that should take care of the pain. But you would have been better off with the testosterone enanthate.Originally Posted by Skyefire
All of this is really things you should have found out before you started your cycle. Also why are you already running the stanozolol during the 2nd week? Do you realize that you should be running this at least 12 weeks due to the decanoate ester? How long are you planning to run the stanozolol ? Please post the following, your age, height and weight, current training, years of training, diet, and your plans for your PCT.
05-18-2006, 10:35 AM
Yes, Anastozole (arimidex) and I've been doing .5 mg-1mg depending on bloat ED. I've officially started week 2 of this Sust./winny cycle. I'm not using IP products and the swelling and pain is most likely NOT an infection. I'm a tough guy though and the pain is to the point I can't even go to the gym for at least 48 hours due to pain. Hell I'm in agonizing pain to tell you the truth. Here is what my cycle/PCT looks like:Originally Posted by Skye
Week 1-5 Sustanon 500 mg/ week ( 2 injections)
Week 1-5 Winny 250 mg./week (oraly every other day)
Week 5-10 Test Cypionate 400mg/week
Week 5-10 Winny 250mg./week
Week 1-10 Arimidex .5 mg/ED
Week 1-10 Finasteride 2 mg/ ED
PCT - Liquid Nolva - 40-60 mg/ ed
Comid 50 mg/ed
7-10 Week PCT - Clomid 20-40mg./eod
* I don't have the Test Cypionate yet or I would be adding that to dilute the Sust. 250 which is kicking my arse.
Oh yeah, i'm 6ft.at 230 maybe 18% BF. I'm on the the most muscular guys at the gym so my phsique is very advanced for a natural BB. I've been lifting for 10 years.
05-18-2006, 12:09 PM
Ok, use the sterile oil until you get the test cyp. that should take care of the pain. Go to one of the board sponser sites and get a bottle of sterile oil and a sterile vial. mix 50/50 like I said above.Originally Posted by jetty
That is too long on the winny and not enough. no more then 6 weeks. 50mg ED is good orally. I would run it the last half of the cycle.
That is still too much adex. check your diet for the bloat and remember that not all of that bloat is casued by the estrogen diet is key.
Clomid is not recomended for PCT anymore due to the sides and nolvadex working better anyway. I would make the cycle look like this
500 test cyp or sust a week weeks 1 to 12
50mg winny ED for weeks 9 to 14.
Start PCT week 15 to 18 with 40/30/20/20 mg of nolvadex a week.
05-18-2006, 03:11 PM
SKye, i appreciate your .02 more than you know but this is my first cycle and 250 mg/winny a week should be adequate. I will take your advice and stop taking winny and leave it for the last 5 weeks. It's too long for sure. I've only taken it for two weeks and now the Test is kicking in so it will be aight to stop taking it i hope. Hey, when i mix the sterile oil with the Sust. do I shake it in the syringe and then pour warm water over the barrel? How do i actually administir it?
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