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  1. Thanks curt. So 6 weeks at 600 mg applied a day should be similar to 500 mg a week of test? Do you think 6 weeks is a long enough cycle to get solid gains?


  2. Originally posted by curt2go
    I have done 1000mg sus/week and 500mg/week before(Indian Karachi or whatever it is).. To tell you the honest truth I woul ddo the sus any day. But i'm married now... If you do large enough amounts of 4-ad it will give you the same effect. I have done just 4-ad as well. I love it... No pins and works almost as good. I woul dhave to say that 600mg/day 4-ad is pretty close to the gains from 500mg sus/week. If you run them the same length.... But the sus will take a couple of weeks to kick in... (And yes people will disaggree..So let them.. hehehe)) So taking that into consideration I would say 4-ad is 1/3 as effective /dose as test(absorbed)... 600mg 4-ad/day = 1680mg absorbed / week compared to 500mg test /week...

    Thats why I am FRONTLAODING my next 1-test cycle... I will keep you all posted...
    Very interesting thought................You don't think you are stepping out on a limb with those figures?? Don't get me wrong...............I'm not trying to second guess you, I'm just trying to understand the thought behind this.
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  3. I think he was saying this is how it worked in his experience, not a scientific finding.

  4. Originally posted by curt2go
    I have done 1000mg sus/week and 500mg/week before(Indian Karachi or whatever it is).. To tell you the honest truth I woul ddo the sus any day. But i'm married now... If you do large enough amounts of 4-ad it will give you the same effect. I have done just 4-ad as well. I love it... No pins and works almost as good. I woul dhave to say that 600mg/day 4-ad is pretty close to the gains from 500mg sus/week. If you run them the same length.... But the sus will take a couple of weeks to kick in... (And yes people will disaggree..So let them.. hehehe)) So taking that into consideration I would say 4-ad is 1/3 as effective /dose as test(absorbed)... 600mg 4-ad/day = 1680mg absorbed / week compared to 500mg test /week...

    Thats why I am FRONTLAODING my next 1-test cycle... I will keep you all posted...


    Curt that much 4-ad --- could it lead to hairloss? or is that still unlikily?

  5. 18 squirts.....................ta kes a lot of body space!!!
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  6. Wouldn't it only be 6 squirts, using T4, to get 600 mg a day applied.

  7. bump for curt (or anyone)
    large dozes of 4ad (T4) leading to hairloss?
    or nothing to worry about?
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  8. Yes those are just my thoughts. Maybe it was not good sus or something... I do find 4-ad very effective by itself... I just come up with those number based on what happend to me.. This may not fall true for others.. I have heard of some people on 500mg sus gaining 30lbs... Not me.. Hope that helps a bit more.. Talk to ya....

    Yes to get those doses its alot of liquid.. It sucks..

  9. Deoudes, I think hairloss is an issue on this type of cycle, that is why I would recomend topical spiro, and nizoral shampoo while on cycle.

  10. Originally posted by rjones
    Deoudes, I think hairloss is an issue on this type of cycle, that is why I would recomend topical spiro, and nizoral shampoo while on cycle.
    thanks roy -- most people seem to think there virtually no chance of loss from the 4-ad... I guess at high doses the risk increases.

  11. I guess at high doses the risk increases.

    That is true for about everything I think.
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