Two designer steroids - which one first?

[Highlanda01602]

Well, I've decided to do my MTRN/Superdrol cycle. But I have not decided exactly which one will come first.

MTRN retains water to a certain point, where Superdrol has dry effects. This would obviously lead me to going MTRN first, bridge Superdrol in at week 4 and carry on through week 6.

But I'm not sure of the "kick in" time of MTRN, and Superdrol seems to dominate that category in respect to ALL of the designer steroids out there currently. 3 days I've read so many times, with great gains coming at week one. This would lead me to run Superdrol first, as a sort of a kick start to the cycle.

One last question - If I were to run MTRN, should I run it for the entire length of the cycle at 6 weeks? I was planning going:
weeks 1-4 MTRN
weeks 4-6 Superdrol
If you suggest running MTRN first, would it be best to run it along side Superdrol in the final weeks of the cycle?


SO, I'm gunna ask the audience. What do you guys think? Already have my goods for ancillaries (MT, ALA, CoQ10, Hawthorne Berry)...

thanks

[megadose]

definately don't take them together sd is harsh enough as it is.
imo i would take m trn first for 4 wks could go to 6 wks ur choice but i would prefer to save it for another time and also you put added stress when u add the sd. then take sd for 3wks would not not go any more becuase sd is very toxic and you would have already put some stress from 4wks of the m trn taking any longer may cause liver problems. Btw m trn does no cause water retention.

[Pitbull954]

What do you have lined up for PCT?

[Highlanda01602]

thanks for the repsonse mega-dose

pit-bull - i plan on running liquid nolva, retain, and probably a test booster like vitrix..... last cycle i used an AI, but ive opted out from using those now as I've heard mixed opinions, not about results, from AI like rebound xt.

whats your opinion on which to run first?

[Jstrong20]

Either one first would be fine. If it was me I would go superdrol first so you can blow up fast and then hit the mtrn to continue gaining quality size and strength.

[Highlanda01602]

Ahhhhhh I CANNNT DECIIIIIIIIIIDE

thanks for the reply man... have you used MTRN? how long did it take to kick in if you did?

that may be a deciding factor in this, as a 6 week cycle is relatively short; i dont want to waste time and get going right away!

[Pitbull954]

whats your opinion on which to run first?

I don't think you really will go wrong with either or. Do you plan on taking both at the same time? Wait let me say that different i mean say superdrol for 3 weeks M for 3 weeks?

[Pitbull954]

Yeah duh you meant that sorry...... I don't really know to be honest with you. I guess I would go SD first if your gonna run both. That's a pretty tough stack on your lipids. If your heart is set on that I would take your side supplements 2 weeks before you start you cycle. You may also want to add fenugreek to your pct and maybe some CEE. Just my 2 cents good luck keep us posted!

[Jayhawkk]

I've been under the impression that TRN doesn't retain water(and hasn't in my use) and superdrol does. Personally I wouldn't go 6 weeks with either but that's just me.

I would do your superdrol cycle when bulking and trn cycle when cutting. But again, that's just what I would do.


*EDIT*

I honestly would keep them in storage for now and go back to the research stage and start over.

[yeahright]

Well, I've decided to do my MTRN/Superdrol cycle. But I have not decided exactly which one will come first.

I was planning going:
weeks 1-4 MTRN
weeks 4-6 Superdrol

SO, I'm gunna ask the audience. What do you guys think? Already have my goods for ancillaries (MT, ALA, CoQ10, Hawthorne Berry)...

thanks

As long as you're asking, I think combining these in a 6 week cycle (regardless of which you do first) is a bad idea. Bloodwork has demonstrated that superdrol is very harsh on the body. MTRN had so few users during its initial release and is so new with the re-release that there's not much info about its safety/side-effects. I personally would err on the side of caution and do one or the other for a single 3 week cycle, not two consecutive 3 week cycles.

Just my opinion, your risk tolerance may vary.

[idunk42]

I think stacking these is a bad idea, especially if you have never run either of them solo before.

[Highlanda01602]

IM HARDCORE! HOO-AH!



no seriously, im hardcore.

















alright, seriously, i will reconsider things. i have actually researched the **** out of both of these steroids ever since i finished my first cycle back in jan consisting of Finigenx and Phera-plex

ive done a few polls attempting to separate the two compounds, looking for which would yield the best strength gains. MTRN victored, but as stated before, there really arent that many testers. I believe the guys that told me its powerful though, hence why i want to implement both compounds into my cycle.

if i was going to run one, it would be for 4 weeks... so basically im either deciding for 4 weeks or going 6 weeks...

i was planning on starting in a few days- ive already be pre-loading milk thisle, ALA, NAC, and now hawthorne berry and CoQ10 as of today....

[Highlanda01602]

I've been under the impression that TRN doesn't retain water(and hasn't in my use) and superdrol does. Personally I wouldn't go 6 weeks with either but that's just me.

I would do your superdrol cycle when bulking and trn cycle when cutting. But again, that's just what I would do.


*EDIT*

I honestly would keep them in storage for now and go back to the research stage and start over.

You mentioned that you have used MTRN. How were strength gains, as compared to Superdrol (if you ran that). I havn't found many users that have experience with MTRN- ESPECIALLY that also have experience with Superdrol.

[Highlanda01602]

Yeah duh you meant that sorry...... I don't really know to be honest with you. I guess I would go superdrol first if your gonna run both. That's a pretty tough stack on your lipids. If your heart is set on that I would take your side supplements 2 weeks before you start you cycle. You may also want to add fenugreek to your post cycle therapy and maybe some CEE. Just my 2 cents good luck keep us posted!

thanks for the encouragement pit, im really hyped to get this going

[Jayhawkk]

I've retained most of my muscle and retained a good bit of strength considering the low carb cutting cycle i've been on. No bloating, no sides to mention and my blood pressure has remained steady. Im dosing 3 a day with food. This cut cycle has included t-3 and venom so the fact that the results are what they are, I would say TRN has worked pretty well but i'm witholding on praise until I get my bloodwork after the cycle.

I tried Superdrol way back when it first started and it had great strength gains but it came with a couple of sides. Bloat, high BP and elevated liver profiles.

I don't recommend either if you haven't done a baseline bloodwork/BP docs visit to make sure everything is on good working order. If you have an unknown preexisting health issue it would be good to know before possibly setting it off with these compounds.

I also can't compare Superdrol and TRN strength gaines because one was abulk cycle with plenty of carbs an no energy/fat type supps and the other was a cut with reduced carbs etc.

[idunk42]

Robert, delete your post. No sources allowed.

[Jayhawkk]

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[idunk42]

So you're gonna come online to a forum and try to score a contact for steroids? Just go ahead and walk to the nearest police station and turn yourself in for being an Oxygen Thief.

[mercedesdd]

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[Highlanda01602]

I've retained most of my muscle and retained a good bit of strength considering the low carb cutting cycle i've been on. No bloating, no sides to mention and my blood pressure has remained steady. Im dosing 3 a day with food. This cut cycle has included t-3 and venom so the fact that the results are what they are, I would say TRN has worked pretty well but i'm witholding on praise until I get my bloodwork after the cycle.

I tried Superdrol way back when it first started and it had great strength gains but it came with a couple of sides. Bloat, high BP and elevated liver profiles.

I don't recommend either if you haven't done a baseline bloodwork/BP docs visit to make sure everything is on good working order. If you have an unknown preexisting health issue it would be good to know before possibly setting it off with these compounds.

I also can't compare Superdrol and TRN strength gaines because one was abulk cycle with plenty of carbs an no energy/fat type supps and the other was a cut with reduced carbs etc.

thanks man, that was helpful
maybe i run superdrol this cycle, and in a couple of months use MTRN in a cutting cycle as you did... i have not done a cutting cycle yet