difference between methyl test and methyl 1 test
- 04-24-2006, 02:15 PM
- 04-24-2006, 02:56 PM
well i would have to imagine that methyl test is testosterone alpha alkalayted at the 17th carbon position whereas methyl 1 test would be 1-testosterone alpha alkalayted at the 17th carbon position ... i'm not familiar with methyl test though .. m1t is pretty common (yet horribly unsafe and not worth it IMO)
- 04-24-2006, 02:59 PM
Nobody uses methyl test b/c the benefits/risks do not weigh out. I think this was the standard of measurement when AAS were being developed decades ago (e.g. 4x more androgenic than methytest; 2x more anabolic than methyl test)...or maybe it was just Legal Gear's standard of measurement
04-26-2006, 04:42 PM
yep mt (methyl test) is a harsh compound. it still converts to estrogen but it's methyl estradiol (very potent), and dht but it's methyl dht (very potent as well) instead. water retention, hair loss, acne, gyno wil be likely and twice as bad as regular test with esters.Originally Posted by glenihan
04-26-2006, 08:15 PM
Methyl-testosterone is nothing more then regular testosterone that has been methylated to allow oral absorbs ion. It has about 3 to 4 times the sides of Dianabol with about the same effect which explains why no one uses it any more. Most of the sides can now days be avoided by use of a strong AI but why bother when Dbol cost about the same and is generally more available then the Methyl-test.
This is a sort something on MIT
Methyl-1-testosterone, AKA M1T
The name is something of a misnomer as 1- testosterone is not accurate chemical depiction. How ever that may be 1-testosterone proved to be a fair steroid in its own right despite absorbs ion and delivery problems. Then someone got the idea of methylating the 1-testosterone and M1T was bone. In a nutshell this stuff works and works well, it is more potent then fluoxymesterone while bring good mass building into the equation. It is also one of the harshest steroids ever made. It is more liver toxic then halotestin (just how bad has been the subject of much debate) while having sides not unlike anadrol. It is so harsh in fact that many users cycled it in 2 week intervals to reduce the damage. M1Ts main claim to fame is that it was once a legal pro-hormone. As it is no longer legal (or will not remain so) there is just no reason to use this. However many people stockpiled this stuff and feel compelled to use it. This is again a case of having a wide array of better and safer options.
04-26-2006, 08:17 PM
ehh....saying "twice as bad as test in regards to sides" is just completely inaccurate. in fact, being more androgenic, gyno and water retention are musch LESS likely.Originally Posted by megadose
methyltest has its place, but not as test replacement. powerlifters and fighters use it for a precontest amp.
04-26-2006, 09:49 PM
like i said when methyl test is converted to methyl estradoil this makes gyno and water retention more of a problem since methyl estradoil is more potent than regular estrodoil.Originally Posted by same_old
04-26-2006, 11:40 PM
water retention?????hugh,i take M1 and get only lethargic on it and strong as hell,no ****in bloat
04-27-2006, 08:59 AM
Does anyone have actual experience with this legal medication, known as Android or Testred? (both are methyltestosterone)
04-27-2006, 11:54 AM
Methyltestosterone was, well, still is the worlds first oral steroid developed. Using the now infamous 17-alpha-methyl alteration to render the base hormone, testosterone, orally active. However, unlike the whole host of injectable testosterones, methyltest is a rather crude and not very well liked compound. Mostly due to this alteration. Methyltestosterone is to testosterone, what Dianabol (methandrostenolone) is to Equipoise (boldenone). On the one hand the 17-alpha-alkylation of the steroid gives it less affinity for the aromatase enzyme so less estrogen is formed, but as with Dianabol, the estrogen formed is 17-methyl-estradiol, which is much more potent. Just as we will notice serious bloat and water retention with Dianabol, we will see the same with methyltestosterone, but to a much greater degree, simply because the base structure has twice the tendency to aromatize. With this amount of estrogenic effects, gynocomastia is a very real threat and concomitant use of an anti-estrogen is strongly advised.Originally Posted by manfreakca
04-27-2006, 12:46 PM
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That pretty much sums it up. One other small addition is that M1T is 5a-reduced, meaning it doesn't directly convert to estrogens or DHT. M1T is a 1-ene steroid, MT is a 4-ene steroid as is testosterone.Originally Posted by glenihan
M1T - 17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-ene-3-one
MT - 17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3-one
Neither one really worth using, considering the current legal alternatives.
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