Best for specific cycle - Superdrol or MTRN
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04-15-2006 11:55 AM
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Best for specific cycle - Superdrol or MTRN
I'm looking for strength gains on this cycle, and I honestly could not care about mass gains at all.
Superdrol for 4 weeks, or MTRN for 4-6 weeks?
This thread was made due to some help from some fellow members turning me onto MTRN and away from SD, so I'm looking for the rest of your opinions!
Thanks
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04-15-2006 12:00 PM
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MTRN will for sure help you with strength, and ive heard mixed strength results from SD. MTRN is also easier on your body, just be prepared for the progesterone side effects it can cause.
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04-15-2006 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CNorris
MTRN will for sure help you with strength, and ive heard mixed strength results from SD. MTRN is also easier on your body, just be prepared for the progesterone side effects it can cause.
aka the possible gyno effects it can cause?
thanks for the reply by the way
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04-15-2006 12:53 PM
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Yes thats exactly what i mean. Im not sure about the best way to keep it at bay, but small amounts of rebount xt while on may not be a bad idea to keep estrogen in check. From my understanding estrogen is still the cause of gyno, but progestins can be a catalyst to make it worse. I would for sure reccomend having nolva on hand just in case. Research dostinex too. I had problems with finigenx which is similar to m-trn.
From Fini I didnt gain much size, but I didnt eat more than maintainence calories. I got stronger for sure, even though I wasnt training for strength. I would love to try M-TRN but from my past experience i think it may be a good idea for me to stay away from tren.
Also I change my vote to 4 weeks since M-TRN is methylated. I didnt realize that at first. Fini isnt so you can run it longer.
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04-15-2006 01:47 PM
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Sounds good man, thanks for the input
My first cycle actually was Fini stacked with PP, and I had some gains but I'm looking to double my strength gains this cycle
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04-15-2006 04:00 PM
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TRN isnt methylated i thought, it has a methoxy bond which is diff
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04-15-2006 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFast
TRN isnt methylated i thought, it has a methoxy bond which is diff
Yes, I think that's correct. The important thing to look for is if it's 17aa... not all methyls are harmful. But in either case, I'm pretty sure the active ingredient is methoxy-trienbolone or something similiar to that name.
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04-15-2006 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602
Yes, I think that's correct. The important thing to look for is if it's 17aa... not all methyls are harmful. But in either case, I'm pretty sure the active ingredient is methoxy-trienbolone or something similiar to that name.
I would definetly include m-trn in any strength stack,i did a 30 day cutter and the stuff is awesome,it's like a real low dose of tren,it's my favorite designer.
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04-16-2006 12:29 AM
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Hmm, I'm considering going into maybe a MTST and MTRN stack then? The MTST compound is so new though, I'm hesitant to just jump into it....
I am also looking at stacking SD and MTRN, maybe something like SD 1-3 and MTRN 2-5
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04-16-2006 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602
Hmm, I'm considering going into maybe a MTST and MTRN stack then? The MTST compound is so new though, I'm hesitant to just jump into it....
I am also looking at stacking SD and MTRN, maybe something like SD 1-3 and MTRN 2-5
Trn is extremely low on the side effects end of things,the only thing i noticed was a little rise in BP,and compared to my PP cycle the shutdown was not bad at all.
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04-16-2006 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ripped218
Trn is extremely low on the side effects end of things,the only thing i noticed was a little rise in BP,and compared to my PP cycle the shutdown was not bad at all.
Cool man, now I'm really turning onto this stuff!
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04-16-2006 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602
Hmm, I'm considering going into maybe a MTST and MTRN stack then? The MTST compound is so new though, I'm hesitant to just jump into it....
I am also looking at stacking SD and MTRN, maybe something like SD 1-3 and MTRN 2-5
I would look into front loading the cycle with MTRN instead.
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04-16-2006 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CNorris
I would look into front loading the cycle with MTRN instead.
How would you recommend? I'm really don't know too much about MTRN as of yet, and one thing that I'm interested in is the kick in time the steroid has. I'm not even sure whats the proper dosage for a stack cycle.
Would something like MTRN 1-4 and Superdrol 3-6 work? Or would you recommend staying on MTRN just a bit longer, such as 1-5 and Superdrol 4-7
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04-16-2006 06:10 PM
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Well the only reason i recommend doing SD last is because since its so harsh on your body, I personally would want to start PCT right after. I wouldt reccomend doing a stack with SD until you've done 1-2 cycles with it. Its very powerful alone, and M-TRN should give you great strenght gains alone, if you eat and train right. If you havent done many cycles dont look at stacking SD with anything.
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04-17-2006 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CNorris
Well the only reason i recommend doing SD last is because since its so harsh on your body, I personally would want to start PCT right after. I wouldt reccomend doing a stack with SD until you've done 1-2 cycles with it. Its very powerful alone, and M-TRN should give you great strenght gains alone, if you eat and train right. If you havent done many cycles dont look at stacking SD with anything.
Definetly hear ya bro.... I have had experience with Fini and PP, but not Superdrol yet. I might run a MTRN cycle first.
Two questions: What is the typical kick in time for MTRN? Is it as fast as SD? ANd what are the average doses? I'm around 200 pounds (just a few lbs short).
Thanks again man for the help
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04-17-2006 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602
Definetly hear ya bro.... I have had experience with Fini and PP, but not Superdrol yet. I might run a MTRN cycle first.
Two questions: What is the typical kick in time for MTRN? Is it as fast as SD? ANd what are the average doses? I'm around 200 pounds (just a few lbs short).
Thanks again man for the help
The strength and fat burnining and hardining up effects of m-trn are almost immediate,the muscle gain starts to come about 8-14 days in,i ran m-trn at 6mgs a day and i was around 220 at the time,so i would start out slow to assess your tolerance.
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04-17-2006 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ripped218
The strength and fat burnining and hardining up effects of m-trn are almost immediate,the muscle gain starts to come about 8-14 days in,i ran m-trn at 6mgs a day and i was around 220 at the time,so i would start out slow to assess your tolerance.
Nice man, looks good. At what dosage did you start the cycle at? And how long did you run 6mgs?
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04-17-2006 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Highlanda01602
Nice man, looks good. At what dosage did you start the cycle at? And how long did you run 6mgs?
I started at 4mgs a day and ran that for seven days,then went straight to 6 mgs,my cycle lasted 30 days,m-trn is definetly the real deal.
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04-18-2006 07:03 PM
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How is liver toxicity with MTRN? I wont touch this without taking Nolva or Rebound XT or small amounts of Letro on cycle. Ive had bad experience with tren.
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04-18-2006 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CNorris
How is liver toxicity with MTRN? I wont touch this without taking Nolva or Rebound XT or small amounts of Letro on cycle. Ive had bad experience with tren.
Look up Ryansm's log on Methoxy trn,he had blood work done pre and post cycle,it really wasnt that hard on his system including liver values.
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