having trouble recovering from shutdown of cycle

**FitModel** · 03-30-2006, 11:06 PM

okay I did a 12 week cycle of test e and deca with kick start of dbol and finish up with test prop...went descent, the gear I used was kinda under dosed and wasn't the best stuff...

anyways...I'm in week three of pct...which consists currently of NOLVA, Rebound xt, Lean Xtreme, ZMA...
other supp's include...GlycerGrow, White blood and Green buldge (which are great)...I haven't lost too much of my gains as of now but my sex drive is almost zero and my tests are still in there shrunken state...I used HCG thought the cycle at 250mgs twice a week (or that's what I thought I was doing, I dunno if the HCG was legitimate at this point)...also I have some lingering gyno, nothing serious at all but I can still notice it slightly, will it most likely go away in the next couple weeks...?

what can I do at this point to bring up my sex drive and restore my tests...

Stupes · 03-30-2006, 11:34 PM

I found the rebound killed my libido - cut that out and stick with the Nolva. I was up going a few days after I quit the rebound.

**Ubiquitous** · 03-30-2006, 11:45 PM

How long did you wait until after your last shot of Deca?

it's IU's of HCG.. not MGs.

Was this a first cycle?

Nandrolone is notorious for recovery issues, and erectile problems.. so you're not alone. Keep your PCT going until tests show you are recovered. Use LH boosters like Trib along with your PCT compounds.

**FitModel** · 03-31-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous

How long did you wait until after your last shot of Deca?

it's IU's of HCG.. not MGs.

Was this a first cycle?

Nandrolone is notorious for recovery issues, and erectile problems.. so you're not alone. Keep your PCT going until tests show you are recovered. Use LH boosters like Trib along with your PCT compounds.

I forget exactly but it was what the guys on this board advised me to do...I was still running test like 3-4 weeks after my last deca shot...

right IU's my mistake

2nd cycle...1st cycle was test e/dbol

I'll get some trib...any suggestions on a good one?

**Beelzebub** · 03-31-2006, 12:14 AM

your libido is going to be abscent for a while bro. just the way it is. trib may help, but cialis works too

**Ubiquitous** · 03-31-2006, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by FitModel

I forget exactly but it was what the guys on this board advised me to do...I was still running test like 3-4 weeks after my last deca shot...

right IU's my mistake

2nd cycle...1st cycle was test e/dbol

I'll get some trib...any suggestions on a good one?

ah ok, so how long after your last Test E shot did you start therapy?

Any tribulus product really. Lots of different Sapponins will work.. Someone here said they think Longjack exacerbated their gyno though.. strange..

Cialis is a good aid Beez, but if he doesn't have the fire in his belly, then it's going to be about going through the motions..

Good luck on your recovery dude.

**Ubiquitous** · 03-31-2006, 01:03 AM

ah yes, those are great additions.. I agree.

**ugab37** · 03-31-2006, 01:08 AM

Try some Redkat from Biotest. A lot of people have issues with Biotest as a whole but the Redkat works great for desire and Cialis or Viagra are both good for the physical aspects.

**papa G** · 03-31-2006, 01:09 AM

DHEA seems to help keep my spirits up while shut down.

**Ubiquitous** · 03-31-2006, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by ugab37

Try some Redkat from Biotest. A lot of people have issues with Biotest as a whole but the Redkat works great for desire and Cialis or Viagra are both good for the physical aspects.

Redkat is Longjack.. overpriced longjack...

**bioman** · 03-31-2006, 01:33 AM

It's definitely a combo of things like they said..deca takes forever to let go of your AR's and Rebound just plain kills libido. I would stay the course with the rebound because of your gyno, but in all likelihood you will have to tough out the lack of libido for a few more weeks.

After 4AD/19Nor cycles, my libido is in the crapper for several months. I am functional, but have little desire or even sexual thoughts at all until well after PCT is over. Trib helps a little but not a lot.

It's a great cycle stack but sucks during pct to be sure.

**MarcusG** · 03-31-2006, 02:59 PM

Several months? Is 19nor so suppressive?

**bioman** · 03-31-2006, 03:13 PM

I don't think it's all that suppressive per se, rather clearance time, perhaps of one of it's metabolites, is very long. As far as testicular atrophy..not a problem but it just dampens libido for a lot longer than many other compounds and that's why 19 Nor kinda fell out of favor IMO.

**Old Guy** · 03-31-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by MarcusG

Several months? Is 19nor so suppressive?

It converts to Nandrolone, which is Deca.

**Old Guy** · 03-31-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by bioman

I don't think it's all that suppressive per se, rather clearance time, perhaps of one of it's metabolites, is very long. As far as testicular atrophy..not a problem but it just dampens libido for a lot longer than many other compounds and that's why 19 Nor kinda fell out of favor IMO.

Yeah, what bioman said.

**Old Guy** · 03-31-2006, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by FitModel

okay I did a 12 week cycle of test e and deca with kick start of dbol and finish up with test prop...went descent, the gear I used was kinda under dosed and wasn't the best stuff...

anyways...I'm in week three of pct...which consists currently of NOLVA, Rebound xt, Lean Xtreme, ZMA...
other supp's include...GlycerGrow, White blood and Green buldge (which are great)...I haven't lost too much of my gains as of now but my sex drive is almost zero and my tests are still in there shrunken state...I used HCG thought the cycle at 250mgs twice a week (or that's what I thought I was doing, I dunno if the HCG was legitimate at this point)...also I have some lingering gyno, nothing serious at all but I can still notice it slightly, will it most likely go away in the next couple weeks...?

what can I do at this point to bring up my sex drive and restore my tests...

As far as the gyno, what is your Nolva dose?
Might need to increase it for a few days.

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