Poll: What should I run?

SD vs. PP vs. SD/PP

  1. Question SD vs. PP vs. SD/PP


    Ok. Finished up a cycle of SD and a PCT about a month ago. Have researched it, everythign done, am comfortable with what I'm doing.

    Heres the question.

    I have a bottle of SD and a bottle of PP.

    Should I run:
    SD alone
    PP alone
    SD/PP combo


  2. PP/SD stack, but wait. It's still too soon.



  3. agreed. time on = time off.. i'd include your pct with your time on.. so wait a bit longer, yah.
    "A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time. When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, The one I feed the most." -George Bernard Shaw
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  4. Yea man dont jump into cycles too fast it could be painful (on your liver!)

  5. Oh yeah, sorry I didnt make that clear. I plan to start my cycle around June 1st, which shoudl give me a little over 2 months to recover from my SD cycle.

    If I run the SD/PP combo, do you all have any dosages that you prefer?

  6. I would only add that time off should equal or maybe even double time on. You should also have bloodwork done before thinking about another cycle or orals.

  7. I'd say run this:

    PP
    20mg Week 1
    20mg Week 2
    30mg Week 3
    30mg+10mg SD Week 4
    20mg SD Week 5
    20mg SD Week 6

  8. So thats essentialy a 6 wk cycle of methylated steroids. People say the max for SD is 4. Why all of a sudden higher?

  9. The max usually with SD is 4 weeks, due to the fact that gains start to taper off after week 3-4 taking SD anylonger would be pointless. However, with a PP/SD stack you can run for longer because you aren't running SD the entire time.

  10. That sounds like RAZORS on the liver. Alot of people do both one after another. I would give yourself 6 months from your last cycle. There's no hurry, give your receptors a break so they are primed and ready to go for another run. I personally think that 40mg in a day is over doing it.

    Search for threads that have sample dosing for the two. There is tons of logs on here.

    Good luck man

  11. say a 5 week of PP/SD, how long would you recommend time off?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by olb
    So thats essentialy a 6 wk cycle of methylated steroids. People say the max for SD is 4. Why all of a sudden higher?
    Everyone realized the sky wasn't really falling

  13. 6 weeks tops !!! although some can do more, but the amount of overtraining you will be doing because you feel so good, keep the cycle 6 weeks and what xxtruxx looks good.

  14. Alright thanks guys. Anyone else wanna chime in?

  15. give it another month or two dude, especially with SD.

    Got a question, did any of your guys nuts hurt on PP? My nuts kinda have an ache, I was thinking of lowering the dosage.

  16. that looks like a good cycle to me. all this "6 weeks is too long" is bs. i wish sd did for me what it did for other people. i pretty much had no response to it. pp on the other hand was the best oral ive ever taken and ive taken quite a few including dbol.

  17. Just so you know, I read a post from a guy that had bloodwork done 4 months after a SD cycle with full support supps. His liver values had still not recovered after 4 months off!!!

    SD is one of the harsher ones. Id take a minimum of 3 months off before you touch another methyl

  18. PP alone

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MattHines
    Just so you know, I read a post from a guy that had bloodwork done 4 months after a superdrol cycle with full support supps. His liver values had still not recovered after 4 months off!!!

    SD is one of the harsher ones. Id take a minimum of 3 months off before you touch another methyl

    Everybody is different i've run sdrol/pp at higher dosages (not reccomeneded) and have had blood work come back fine. It's just the same as some people getting hungry on pp and some people losing there appetite or one person gaining 10lbs and one gaining 15. did that person have pre bloodwork also? maybe his liver values were high to begin with maybe he as other circumstances in his life not just the drol that could raise his liver. The Main point we have to remember is that EVERYBODY is different PRECAUTIONS need to be taken with everything put into our body. ESPECIALLY with the "new" steroids that are out since there are really not alot of testing or lab feedback as compared to test, dbol, halotestin etc. I doubt we can really say which is HARSHER for sure. We can say which seems to be harsher based on feedback and reviews.

  20. I seem to peter out on SD at exactly 3 weeks. Just ran my third cycle of SD solo, and find that at 3 weeks...I'm toast. I'm sure that my workout requires a cruise. My joints are killing me. I'm sick of eating and my motivation is very low. Time for a cruise. I ran a PP/SD cycle and I find that SD tells me it's time to stop. Bottom line, listen to your body. I've done PP solo, SD sole, and stacked PP/SD. Has good responses to all cycles but I can't honestly go beyond 3 weeks. I'm taxed out.
  

  
 

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