Now mind you I havent used PH's since the days of Mark Mcguire and the andro rage. I notice lately alot of people claim they are just as good as the typical test deca cycle. People swear they put on 20lbs of muscle in 3 months with pro hormones. So my question is to those who have used both before, are they really all their made out to be? Or is just people who havent done an old fashion dbol test cycle that think they are wonderful? I'm not trying to affend anyone, just curious how they compare to steriods.