What sort of gains the 2nd time around?

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    What sort of gains the 2nd time around?


    Most of the posts here are people using compounds for the first time. I am interested in what sort of gains anyone has gotten the second cycle? E.g. Halodrol for 30 days, then a 90 day break with PCT and Halodrol again for 30 days. Where gains equal, less than or much less than the 1st?

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    it seems like most recieve good results on the 2nd run if they recieved good results the first time; however, it seems like most do increase the dosage slightly. ive seen some run SD for 10mg their first time, then the second time will run at 10mg the first week and then 20mg that last two weeks and recieve just as good results as the first time. the longer you take off between cycles, the better results you will get because the receptors will be that much more clean.
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    So if you take enough time off (btw what is a good ratio of time on vs time off), you will not need to increase the dosage in order to see similar gains?
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    Time on=Time off (I include pct as time on)

    4week cycle, 4 week pct, 8 weeks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexfx
    So if you take enough time off (btw what is a good ratio of time on vs time off), you will not need to increase the dosage in order to see similar gains?
    eh, i wouldnt go as to say that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Time on=Time off (I include pct as time on)

    4week cycle, 4 week pct, 8 weeks off.
    This is really good advice. ON 4 + PCT for 4 weeks (or more) = time on. Jumping back on right after PCT is not going to really allow you to recover fully. So for a standard 4 week cycle + 4 week PCT you should wait 7-8 weeks before doing another. If you are really supressed from a long and/or high dosage SD cycle 4 weeks of PCT is just enough to get the ball rolling. If you are older this advice is even more important. Recovery may take much longer. You really dont want to be running SD (or even PP) back to back on/off every other 8 weeks though.
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    Thanks for the info guys....one more question. Would there be an advantage to using different compounds each time? E.g. Halo-50...PCT...Time Off...Superdrol
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    bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexfx
    Thanks for the info guys....one more question. Would there be an advantage to using different compounds each time? E.g. Halo-50...PCT...Time Off...Superdrol
    yes there would be, depending on how your body reacted to each compound. ive done e-max/hd/pp/sd all seperately and by themselves. ive finally found the one that works the best for me. PP all the way! if you use the same compound in the following cycle your time off should be greater (at least this is how i feel about it). if its a different compound you use, just do the normal recommended time on/time off rule.
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    Hell, I've taken 7 months off....
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    ..whats this talk of "time off"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    ..whats this talk of "time off"?
    heard it once or twice. it's one of those new catch phrases like 'shizzle' and 'whack'.

    hey man, you taking time off?
    yeah bro, it's bum (the newest one)
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    it's one of those new catch phrases like 'shizzle' and 'whack'.
    Does "Word" count?
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    i still use 'word' which probably means it's no longer cool.
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    Yeah, I think only us old White dudes use it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Yeah, I think only us old White dudes use it....
    word
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