The 1-test/4AD will kick in real fast 4-7 days you should start feeling it. 19Nor-diol, while being a good anabolic drug, isnt a very potent androgen, so its effects take longer to be fully realized. Maybe 2 weeks or so, but Im not really sure.
I beleieve that 19Nor has never been stacked with 1test because they both shut HPTA down, 19Nor especially. Stacking them both together will result in a HARD shutdown, and it may be difficult to keep your gains. I know that 3weeks into Anabol-x, my nuts were so small I was actually pretty scared. I hardly notice any shrinkage 3 weeks into T1...
Another reason I think they are not stacked together is - 19Nor really dosent 'add' anything to a 1test stack. 1test is so anabolic on its own that it does the brunt of the 'work' in the cycle. The 4AD is usually there to negate its side effects. Also, its conversion hormone (testosterone) should be a component in any mass gain stack. (or so Ive read)
19Nor will increase estrogenic/progesteronic activity - so alongside the 4AD it will be even more difficult to keep your gains lean.
Also - keep in mind that a bigger variety of chemicals in your system does not necessarily mean bigger gains. For the money, I think you would have been better off just going with T1 at a higher dosage. Adding more 1test would definately bring you bigger gains than adding another PH, like 19NorDiol. 1test dosent need to convert, its an actual steroid. Its 7x as anabolic as test. Its the fushizzle
1,4 is good stuff though. I think that a lot of people dont go with it because it really dosent add anything in terms of 'quanity' mass gains compared to its cost. Its mainly there for an increase in redbood cell production and an increase in appetite. Both great for bulking. I believe it also helps improve vascularity.
I have no idea if all those chem's stacked together will have a bad effect on your cholesterol levels, something a lot of people neglect but definately something to be concerned about.
BigVrunga