Prohormone cycle before or after IGF-1
- 02-18-2006, 01:36 PM
Prohormone cycle before or after IGF-1
I am planning on doing an IGF-1 Lr3 cycle (50 days) in a couple of months and was wondering if I should do an oral cycle before or after my igf-1? Or would it be more beneficial to start the cycle during the PCT of the cycle? Or should I wait until after the igf?
I was actually leaning toward something like this:
Wk 1-2: M1T
Wk 3-5: PCT
Wk 5-11: IGF-1
Wk 12-15: Phera Plex
Wk 15-17: Mega-TRN/Prostan
wk 18-22: PCT
I know this is alot of orals, but my buddy was my source and he got in some deep ****. Im kinda pissed cuz I was supposed to start my first test cycle right around now.
I am 6'5, 240lbs, @12%BF.....I have done one SD/prostan cycle, and a 2 week m1t cycle.
- 02-18-2006, 02:32 PM
I think that is a long time to be on methylated orals, and you should reconsider what you're doing. What do you have planned for liver/lipid protective supplements for use on cycle?
02-18-2006, 02:42 PM
what vrunga said...
I think igf is best used towards the tail end of a cycle into and through pct.
It will help solidify your gains,keep off any rebound fat gains, and lean you out.
02-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Well I was hoping that IBE's Rimonabant would be available by then. Usually what I do during an oral cycle is get a couple bottles of liver cleanse and use those before and throughout ON and PCT (theres almost 50,000mg total of milk thistle in one of those along with some other liver protecting extracts). I also use NAC and ryr along with the other stuff to combat BP and whatnot.
Well what I might end up doing then is just get rid of the m1t all together and flip it around and start the phera then into the TRN/prostan into pct w/ the igf-1. Do you think that would be better?
02-18-2006, 03:37 PM
Yeah dump that m1t...the gains come fast but the lethargy and toxicity suck... most of the gains are just water imo ... PP is a good time ..just watch the hairline ..Originally Posted by idunk42
02-18-2006, 03:46 PM
Yeah, I should be good with the hairline. Neither of my granparents are bald and I have a pretty good head of hair, but thanks for the heads up. Would it be beneficial to have some finasteride (sp?) on hand just in case?
02-18-2006, 03:48 PM
Read the hairloss prevention sticky up at the top. Finasteride will only help with a hormone that reduces via 5AR to DHT. No idea if PP does.
02-18-2006, 04:20 PM
I started shedding a little more than I was comfortable with while on pp I am in week three of pct and just finished my last day of my last of igflr3 and still shedding a little.
02-18-2006, 04:21 PM
02-18-2006, 04:29 PM
I dont think anyone knows much about the pharmacology of these new anabolic hormones...its kind of alarming.I don't think anyone knows
02-18-2006, 04:46 PM
Back to the IGF, if it creates new muscle cells, wouldn't it better to beef those new cells up with anabolics? Hence, taking IGF pre-cycle?
02-18-2006, 05:08 PM
Yes, but it will also greatly boost PCT, aiding recovery and allowing for continued gains. Then, next aas cycle, those same new muscle cells will thrive. For most people, either way will provide great results. I just tend to think that overlapping IGF for the final weeks and then into PCT would be optimal.Originally Posted by jmh80
02-18-2006, 05:16 PM
+1Yes, but it will also greatly boost PCT, aiding recovery and allowing for continued gains. Then, next aas cycle, those same new muscle cells will thrive. For most people, either way will provide great results. I just tend to think that overlapping IGF for the final weeks and then into PCT would be optimal.
02-18-2006, 07:57 PM
thanks guys for all your help, but my buddy spilled the beans and gave me another source so ill most likely run 10 weeks of test cyp. So now the question is, should I take an oral to jump start the cycle and/or should I take one at the end? Also I plan on running the IGF during PCT.
Any other suggestions are welcomed. thanks
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